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11-May-2020 16:19:47

Dilbert2001
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Iron Robsham said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Official Jagex Charitable Giving Update shows OSRS raised £25,557 from levels gained by all OSRS players between May 1 and May 4 at £1 per level. This means OSRS players gained an average of 6389.25 total levels per day.

Given 120k to 150k concurrent OSRS players in these days, it is really clear that an average concurrent OSRS player only gained 0.04 to 0.05 level each day. This is an extremely tiny amount of leveling efforts.

That's right. OSRS players are getting really causal at leveling the PRESENT DAYS. GE is extremely important because there will be very close to 0 level gained per day if everybody has to spam at GE for hours to sell their rewards from loot/skilling.
The latest news post, which you appear to be basing your calculations on, erroneously states that they gave £1 for every level. In reality, according to the original news post and the UI in game while the event was happening, it was £1 for every 150 levels. So your math is way off.

Original news post: link


My math is not way off at all. It is based completely on Jagex's latest news. They could be wrong with their latest news post though.

Anyway, congratulations to Jagex and OSRS players in bringing in £25,557 out of the maximum £34,5000 Jagex was willing to donate through their leveling efforts. Perhaps they would easily reach the £34,500 cap with the old GE folks though. Newer players are more causal and care less at leveling.

11-May-2020 23:11:37

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11-May-2020 23:22:26

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Dilbert2001 said :
Iron Robsham said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Official Jagex Charitable Giving Update shows OSRS raised £25,557 from levels gained by all OSRS players between May 1 and May 4 at £1 per level. This means OSRS players gained an average of 6389.25 total levels per day.

Given 120k to 150k concurrent OSRS players in these days, it is really clear that an average concurrent OSRS player only gained 0.04 to 0.05 level each day. This is an extremely tiny amount of leveling efforts.

That's right. OSRS players are getting really causal at leveling the PRESENT DAYS. GE is extremely important because there will be very close to 0 level gained per day if everybody has to spam at GE for hours to sell their rewards from loot/skilling.
The latest news post, which you appear to be basing your calculations on, erroneously states that they gave £1 for every level. In reality, according to the original news post and the UI in game while the event was happening, it was £1 for every 150 levels. So your math is way off.

Original news post: link


My math is not way off at all. It is based completely on Jagex's latest news. They could be wrong with their latest news post though.

Anyway, congratulations to Jagex and OSRS players in bringing in £25,557 out of the maximum £34,5000 Jagex was willing to donate through their leveling efforts. Perhaps they would easily reach the £34,500 cap with the old GE folks though. Newer players are more causal and care less at leveling.


Recheck your math. It's off.
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12-May-2020 07:29:09

Iron Robsham

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Dilbert2001 said :


My math is not way off at all. It is based completely on Jagex's latest news. They could be wrong with their latest news post though.

Anyway, congratulations to Jagex and OSRS players in bringing in £25,557 out of the maximum £34,5000 Jagex was willing to donate through their leveling efforts. Perhaps they would easily reach the £34,500 cap with the old GE folks though. Newer players are more causal and care less at leveling.
Fine then, if you prefer I'll rephrase. Your conclusion is way off, as common sense should have told you before you ever hit post.

Also, your math is way off. Dividing the cumulative daily levels gained by the average number of concurrent players is nonsensical. You should be trying to divide the cumulative daily levels gained by the average number of daily unique logins. Not that getting the math right would make your conclusion any less wrong, since you're using the incorrect numbers from the latest newspost either way.
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12-May-2020 14:35:46 - Last edited on 12-May-2020 14:47:34 by Iron Robsham

Dilbert2001
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Iron Robsham said :
Dilbert2001 said :


My math is not way off at all. It is based completely on Jagex's latest news. They could be wrong with their latest news post though.

Anyway, congratulations to Jagex and OSRS players in bringing in £25,557 out of the maximum £34,5000 Jagex was willing to donate through their leveling efforts. Perhaps they would easily reach the £34,500 cap with the old GE folks though. Newer players are more causal and care less at leveling.
Fine then, if you prefer I'll rephrase. Your conclusion is way off, as common sense should have told you before you ever hit post.

Also, your math is way off. Dividing the cumulative daily levels gained by the average number of concurrent players is nonsensical. You should be trying to divide the cumulative daily levels gained by the average number of daily unique logins. Not that getting the math right would make your conclusion any less wrong, since you're using the incorrect numbers from the latest newspost either way.


But daily unique logins are not available. It would be at least 150k and likely to be considerably higher than that, so it only means even less present day OSRS players are grinding for levels than the old GE time.

We knew Jagex set a cap of £34,5000 donation through OSRS leveling but only hit 74% of that mark. Apparently, their expectation of present day OSRS grinding was substantially off the mark too.

12-May-2020 19:03:22

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Dilbert2001 said :
Iron Robsham said :
Dilbert2001 said :


My math is not way off at all. It is based completely on Jagex's latest news. They could be wrong with their latest news post though.

Anyway, congratulations to Jagex and OSRS players in bringing in £25,557 out of the maximum £34,5000 Jagex was willing to donate through their leveling efforts. Perhaps they would easily reach the £34,500 cap with the old GE folks though. Newer players are more causal and care less at leveling.
Fine then, if you prefer I'll rephrase. Your conclusion is way off, as common sense should have told you before you ever hit post.

Also, your math is way off. Dividing the cumulative daily levels gained by the average number of concurrent players is nonsensical. You should be trying to divide the cumulative daily levels gained by the average number of daily unique logins. Not that getting the math right would make your conclusion any less wrong, since you're using the incorrect numbers from the latest newspost either way.


But daily unique logins are not available. It would be at least 150k and likely to be considerably higher than that, so it only means even less present day OSRS players are grinding for levels than the old GE time.

We knew Jagex set a cap of £34,5000 donation through OSRS leveling but only hit 74% of that mark. Apparently, their expectation of present day OSRS grinding was substantially off the mark too.


That mark was pretty high. Also, you put an extra 0 on that number. L2spell nubnub.
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12-May-2020 22:27:06

Dilbert2001
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Rochy3para said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Iron Robsham said :
Dilbert2001 said :


My math is not way off at all. It is based completely on Jagex's latest news. They could be wrong with their latest news post though.

Anyway, congratulations to Jagex and OSRS players in bringing in £25,557 out of the maximum £34,5000 Jagex was willing to donate through their leveling efforts. Perhaps they would easily reach the £34,500 cap with the old GE folks though. Newer players are more causal and care less at leveling.
Fine then, if you prefer I'll rephrase. Your conclusion is way off, as common sense should have told you before you ever hit post.

Also, your math is way off. Dividing the cumulative daily levels gained by the average number of concurrent players is nonsensical. You should be trying to divide the cumulative daily levels gained by the average number of daily unique logins. Not that getting the math right would make your conclusion any less wrong, since you're using the incorrect numbers from the latest newspost either way.


But daily unique logins are not available. It would be at least 150k and likely to be considerably higher than that, so it only means even less present day OSRS players are grinding for levels than the old GE time.

We knew Jagex set a cap of £34,5000 donation through OSRS leveling but only hit 74% of that mark. Apparently, their expectation of present day OSRS grinding was substantially off the mark too.


That mark was pretty high. Also, you put an extra 0 on that number. L2spell nubnub.


Yes, I put an extra "0" there by mistake but it remains only 74% of OSRS grinded the levels Jagex expected. You know where did the others go? I don't know, but there have others live events like Jmods Events where old GE folk didn't even think of.

12-May-2020 22:59:21 - Last edited on 12-May-2020 23:00:05 by Dilbert2001

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The Grand Exchange makes slayer quite profitable and fast/easy for me compared to the old 07 days where you had to sell items nobody wanted for hours, haha.

One finger snap and POOF items are gone.

17-May-2020 19:48:05

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@Dilbert

No one I hung out with grinded levels. All we did was PvM.

@Adel

Yeah, but that's also the drop tables. You also didn't have to wait for hours. You asked around over forums as you met people, made contacts with consistent buyers, etc. The GE put a much bigger emphasis on efficiency which a lot of people think really just plagued the game.
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18-May-2020 15:13:20

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