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Teridax
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Dilbert2001 said :


Nostalgia is dead, not that OSRS will be dead (as in being shutdown completely) tomorrow. Even Blizzard virtually didn't even mention WoW Classic in their earning release conference.

RS3 certainly won't die before OSRS. I don't think I need to repost everything from the comments since Page 2, as RS3 can just turn truly free to play supported solely by MTX if Jagex fails to get players to pay membership.

After all, it is natural selection. If OSRS thinks RS3 is going to die first, why are they copying RS3's ideas left and right, and they even openly mentioned RS3 in every livestream?

Nostalgia is dead, and OSRS knows it. Not that RS3 is very modern and have the most desirable game content of modern players, but they are more appealing and more fit to survive. Even the OSRS team knows it, that's why they are putting POH and Menaphos storyline ideas, as well as converting Raids to Elite Dungeon normal and story modes format that are clearly RS3 specific into their game going forward.


Oh how wrong you are Dilbert. OSRS is still very much nostalgic to me and a lot of other people. Stop trying to push your shit where you say it isn't to get what you want.

14-May-2022 13:54:09

Dilbert2001
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Teridax said :
Dilbert2001 said :


Nostalgia is dead, not that OSRS will be dead (as in being shutdown completely) tomorrow. Even Blizzard virtually didn't even mention WoW Classic in their earning release conference.

RS3 certainly won't die before OSRS. I don't think I need to repost everything from the comments since Page 2, as RS3 can just turn truly free to play supported solely by MTX if Jagex fails to get players to pay membership.

After all, it is natural selection. If OSRS thinks RS3 is going to die first, why are they copying RS3's ideas left and right, and they even openly mentioned RS3 in every livestream?

Nostalgia is dead, and OSRS knows it. Not that RS3 is very modern and have the most desirable game content of modern players, but they are more appealing and more fit to survive. Even the OSRS team knows it, that's why they are putting POH and Menaphos storyline ideas, as well as converting Raids to Elite Dungeon normal and story modes format that are clearly RS3 specific into their game going forward.


Oh how wrong you are Dilbert. OSRS is still very much nostalgic to me and a lot of other people. Stop trying to push your shit where you say it isn't to get what you want.


"Would you say the
Osrs community
is dying?" - OP

We are talking about the "Osrs community", not just 1 person's opinion. Real life stats both for OSRS and the gaming industry suggested players are going away from nostalgic games. Do you still many OSRS players still doing the "nostalgic" content like Castle Wars, Barbarian Assault, Edgevile pking etc?

OSRS Polls also suggested players voted for modern content.

14-May-2022 17:13:12

Dilbert2001
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97 said :
Higher chance of rs3 dying imo


Based on what? RS3 would be fine with MTX even if Jagex lost all their members but OSRS would be dead.

With OSRS gp trading at the historic low of $0.35 per million, literally even bots are making like $0.07 per hour or $1.68 a day if they go 24/7 without getting banned. At this rate, even OSRS bots may be dying soon too.

14-May-2022 17:19:57

PvPMatter
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Higher chance of RS3 dying IMO.

This happens often with company's that try to take the next step with their original successful game and have a *Money making* mind while creating it. To make things worse the original creator of RuneScape had nothing to do with RS3 which is why RS3 is becoming a terrible PVM addiction breed of nonsense.

Anyways, to fully answer your question, if you enjoy RuneScape I would just play OSRS and not to take the game to seriously as the new company is all about making money, and OSRS is not the future. RS3 is terrible, you will beat the game incredibly fast and the community is all about PVM as it's what the company drives on, it's a great way to entice players to purchase bonds with IRL money.
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17-May-2022 07:36:25 - Last edited on 17-May-2022 07:37:24 by PvPMatter

Dilbert2001
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PvPMatter said :
Higher chance of RS3 dying IMO.

This happens often with company's that try to take the next step with their original successful game and have a *Money making* mind while creating it. To make things worse the original creator of RuneScape had nothing to do with RS3 which is why RS3 is becoming a terrible PVM addiction breed of nonsense.

Anyways, to fully answer your question, if you enjoy RuneScape I would just play OSRS and not to take the game to seriously as the new company is all about making money, and OSRS is not the future. RS3 is terrible, you will beat the game incredibly fast and the community is all about PVM as it's what the company drives on, it's a great way to entice players to purchase bonds with IRL money.


The reality is subscription based games turned into free to play proved you are wrong.

I don't see how RS3 is turning into a "pvm addiction" when all their updates this year except abyssal lords have all been skilling and questing oriented.

If RS3 is such a "pvm addiction", why is OSRS copying such "pvm addiction" from RS3 by changing raids to the RS3 "addicting" elite dungeon format, adding Demon Flash Mob as their "world bosses", making a whole bunch of fundamental gear updates dubbed Equipment Rebalance despite of riots etc?

Perhaps for someone who in their own words "don't follow OSRS" don't realize OSRS is rapidly selecting to be closer and closer to RS3 naturally to hope to survive longer. If you start following OSRS, it is blatantly obvious they are copying as much from RS3 as they can, especially in the "pvm addiction" front.

17-May-2022 18:11:52 - Last edited on 17-May-2022 18:43:55 by Dilbert2001

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@Dilbert

ROFLLL, yes it's free to play but did you not think, Jagex sat there and thought, hmmm how are we going to make money? and then obviously made their approach to make money from the players, and yes they then created a pay to win game.

They just released EGWD just before the start of the year, with pretty much 4 new Solo bosses *ones a trio but to most end game users it's more of a solo, duo boss unless you want to do the same boss over and over every 1-2 minutes, skipping mechanics* , and the new tier 95 mage class stuff, it's only been 5 months into the year, we generally only get 1 important update every 1-2 months, they already announced another new boss coming out most likely in 3-4 months.

The new skilling boss pretty much killed any chance of the community having any chance of making skilling a more vibrant encouraging state in the actual game. Pretty much killing end game skilling and again encouraging more PVM hype.

People will eventually get fed up and bored with RS3, there's nothing special about it's PVM especially comparing it to other games, the new EP even said they didn't enjoy RS3's combat system. *Thank god*

COVID literally saved RS3 the last 2 years but the numbers will eventually start to fall unless they change their approach, which they have by hiring a new EP that is more into actual adventure games.


From what I understand is, OSRS has about 3-4x the population of RS3 and it has been the community keeping it together, that in itself is a huge statement. Twitch even has about 10x more viewers on OSRS compared to RS3.

So yeah, from my experience in RS3 the last 3-4 years, is that they will destroy their own game to make a profit.
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18-May-2022 00:15:05 - Last edited on 18-May-2022 00:27:40 by PvPMatter

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I know you mentioned you "don't follow OSRS", so I guess you follow RS3. I guess I was wrong then as you obviously don't realize Croesus is for skillers only and not meant for solo. It is hardly any pvm content. Besides there was virtually no pvm content from January through August of the entire 2021. Meanwhile the biggest updates of OSRS in 2021 have been Equipment Rebalance and converting raids to RS3's Elite Dungeon format.

COVID "saved" RS3 and not OSRS???? Big fat hairy joke.

How much do you understand OSRS when you said you don't follow it? The reality is:

"Overall, RuneScape saw product revenue grow by 18% and OSRS grew by 6%. Jagex notes these growth figures were spurred on by content updates like the addition of Archaeology and RuneScape’s Steam launch."


https://massivelyop.com/2022/01/10/jagex-2020-financials-outline-increases-in-revenue-subscriptions-and-microtransaction-sales/

"Population" who don't pay don't help a game and its owner to survive. OSRS don't even have 3x-4x the "population" the past 3 years neither, let alone payers. OSRS not only destroyed the MMORPG in 20007 it came from the last few years and they didn't even make more profits. It is just sad.

18-May-2022 00:29:49

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@Dilbert

They released about 8 different bosses in 2021 ............................

Croesus will eventually be a solo boss, but yes you're right it is group content, pretty sure people are already duo and trioing it. And once again this is killing skilling on the entire game spectrum, there's nothing good about it for the game.

- RS3 most likely got those statistics as they released a new Party hat during the holidays, which came by easier by purchasing bonds, people were also creating 20-50 more accounts so they could get more limited time party hats.

- They also got a new santa hat during the holidays and tons of other cosmetic items, which also came by easier by purchasing bonds.

-People were most likely buying bonds during the Archeology release to race to 200M EXP.

- They most likely had people coming back to see what *RuneScape is like now* as I said before, watch the numbers drop over time.

- and probably added in money from advertisement company's ect to boost their image income for RS3.

They do these things and show these numbers because the actual numbers show OSRS being far superior than RS3, which is the community itself.

My statement remains, OSRS has the bigger population. FACT. I see it surviving past RS3 unless Jagex changes their approach.

Creating an addictive game*RS3* based off past loyalty will eventually haunt the company Jagex.
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18-May-2022 00:53:54 - Last edited on 18-May-2022 00:59:39 by PvPMatter

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RS3 didn't release 8 different bosses in 2021 at all. Creosus is a skilling boss. OSRS released far more skilling bosses than RS3 if you must count them.

The "stat" was for the year of 2020. New Party Hat and Santa Hat came at the end of 2021. They have absolutely no relationships.

So people only buy bonds in RS3 but not OSRS? I seriously hope not, otherwise OSRS Bond would be a huge failure and OSRS would be dying much much faster than we thought.

RS3 was almost never advertised. Unlike OSRS, RS3 didn't pay big money to sponsor pricey influencers like Asmongold and Ludwig.

My statement remains, REAL LIFE FACT: RS3 has been growing faster than OSRS per Jagex latest OFFICIAL REAL LIFE financial report. You don't even follow OSRS, understandably you have no clues.

18-May-2022 01:04:33

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RS3 and OSRS are both dying, OSRS will go further as it has sentimental value for a large portion of people who have played the game the last 20 years.
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