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Sharp-shin

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Draco Burnz said :
Anything not made by GameFreak/Nintendo aren't official Pokémon games.

Gotcha. Since Turksta hasn't replied and your answer didn't cover all the questions though, I guess I'll go by with what you said:


Turksta said :
4. I myself do not want a "replica". It's like buying fake pokemon games. Nobody wants a fake pokemon game in their collection. They want the real version. Strange comparison i know.

Since Draco clarified that the "real" Pokemon games are made by said two companies, the comparison doesn't seem to be applicable here, because Jagex would make both, replicas and non-replicas. Anything made by Jagex for Runescape is official, for the better or worse, so there's no concern when it comes buying the product, because it's the real one even if it's slightly different.

I'd rather make the comparison to something like Yugioh (the TCG): any cards released by Konami are official and "real", yet Konami still releases different variations of the same cards. To make a direct comparison, I'd compare replicas (and their non-replica counterparts) in Runescape to card editions in Yugioh: when new cards are released, they're first sold as "1st editions", and when they're reprinted (aka more copies released for sale later), they're sold as "unlimited edition" replicas. The two card variations are exactly the same, except for a couple minor aesthetic changes (e.g. 1st edition cards having a text to label them as such; base card art is the same though). 1st edition cards are generally more valuable, obviously so since smaller supply leads to a higher price, but for people who care about the actual card itself, either the base art and/or the card's stats, it doesn't matter which variation they get, so they generally go with unlimited editions.

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07-Aug-2019 14:45:33

Sharp-shin

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For people who care about the rarity, they won't settle for unlimited editions of course, but if someone in Runescape likewise only cares about the rarity of discontinued items, rereleasing isn't worth it, because they'd lose the appeal of them being discontinued, and not that many rarity seekers would care about them anymore afterwards.

So, all in all, just like in Yugioh for cards, in Runescape for cosmetics that you care about getting for the cosmetic, not the rarity, it wouldn't matter if there was a distinctive difference between a replica version and the discontinued version, as long as the former is faithful to the latter.

But yeah (@Turksta), I'd obviously prefer something new as well instead. That way, everyone gets something new, rather than just the new players.
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07-Aug-2019 14:45:41

Whatusaytome
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If all you care about is rarity, use the ones you own, dont waste your time on the replicas. They aren't for you.

Use the limited nonreplica you have and play future events for the future ones. Don't act like what you want is more important to the company and dont act like every player shares your personal opinion.

Quit being an entitled loser. It's quite sad. You should know not every single update has to be specific to you to be successful. There are auras many people dont use because they are satisfied by normal training methods. Not everybody has something to gain from all of them, and they are for sale the same way these would be. Probably set in tiers at different loyalty rates. Does that mean by your standards they shouldn't exist either?
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07-Aug-2019 15:19:49 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2019 20:18:42 by Whatusaytome

Konota
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Ladyolake said :
If you look at the Q&A for July 2019 at about 42:00 give or take a few seconds,
On twitch. Runescape3 streams.

There is the question would Jagex bring the old halloween and Christmas
event items back with lootscape like they did the Thanksgiving event items
last year.

The answer is NO and they dont see them coming back in any way.


Finally an awnser from Jagex, and what awnser even, really good news!
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07-Aug-2019 23:20:58 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2019 23:21:53 by Konota

Turksta

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Sharp-shin said :
Turksta said :
4. I myself do not want a "replica". It's like buying fake pokemon games. Nobody wants a fake pokemon game in their collection. They want the real version. Strange comparison i know.

Okay so I wanted to talk about this a bit, because I have a hunch feeling I might have something to add to this, but before saying anything more, because I'm unfamiliar with Pokemon games, I'd just like clarification if you could explain to me: who makes "real" Pokemon games, and who makes the "fake" Pokemon games? What are their differences (a rough summary or so is fine)?

(I don't want to start a discussion on Pokemon games here, I just want to see where the comparison comes from/what's the thought process behind it.)

Real pokemon game = has value. plays game normally.
fake pokemon game = cheap 3 dollar rip offs. Has bugs. Game does not play normally - i.e your save file gets corrupt.

In the pokemon universe, the older pokemon games from 1996-2010 hold quite a price tag in sealed brand new condition. The 1996-2005 games generally go for $300-700 while the older ones (pokemon red) can go for thousands.

Basically some unaware buyers end up finding a "cheap" deal of an older pokemon game for $3-20 dollars and to their disappointment when the item arrives the game cartridge looks different, the game lags at times and theres a chance the whole save file of the game can get corrupt (in otherwords deleted and you lose all progress)

Now when people buy these games everyone tries to avoid the fake counterfeits. However, these days the sellers have gotten better at making the fake ones look as legitimate copies.

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The point is when someone wants something they want that particular item. They might settle for an alternative but it's only time before they ask for the original item again.

09-Aug-2019 10:21:21

Draco Burnz
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Konota said :
Ladyolake said :
If you look at the Q&A for July 2019 at about 42:00 give or take a few seconds,
On twitch. Runescape3 streams.

There is the question would Jagex bring the old halloween and Christmas
event items back with lootscape like they did the Thanksgiving event items
last year.

The answer is NO and they dont see them coming back in any way.


Finally an awnser from Jagex, and what awnser even, really good news!


Yes, yes it is :)
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12-Aug-2019 11:40:16

Ladyolake
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@Whatusaytome,

I wasnt putting in my opinion on page 65 next to last post.

I was letting people know what had been said on a live stream.

i personally dont give a flying fuck any more and that is why i posted
what had been said.

Ive missed one (1) untradeable holiday event in all years RS has been here
and that was Christmas 2013. I want to get it too.

Should I? no i shouldnt but im not even caring at this point.

I just hate pple who act like they are entitled to everything in the world
without doing what it takes to get it...

Example.. not at the event when it was done.

i guess your mad that you were not born when you could get Count Choco
and boo berry cereal every day at grocery store.

Everyone acting entitled is everywhere now days..not just on this game and
its litterly sickening.
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15-Aug-2019 18:08:27

Draco Burnz
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Turksta said :

The point is when someone wants something they want that particular item. They might settle for an alternative but it's only time before they ask for the original item again.


Yet just because ppl ask/demand something, doesn't mean they should get it.

I mean I could demand for free 2b but I wont ever get it.
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15-Aug-2019 21:46:24

Whatusaytome
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Lady, nothing against you, but in case you missed it the first 10 times, there has been a suggestion to let people replay the events for the rewards. And I'd happily accept that over Solomon's if you'd prefer it that way.

I dont care if they come back in a way that makes Jagex extra money, or in a way that makes people do those events, so new players can add reason for us older players to be nostalgic about it. I don't like a game aka Fashionscape, leaving the better looking cosmetics in the past and never coming back, even after 10+ years. Keeping them discontinued isn't doing anything important for anybody.

I don't like discontinued items that are useless being given so much credit. These literally don't do anything to benefit you. I dont like people feeling entitled to something that they dont even use. I don't like people like Blackwing saying that Jagex loses trust or business, due to rereleasing any new pair of bunny ears.

That entitlement is worse than us asking for them to return. And people like Blackwing and Draco, acting like asking for them to return is a crime. Especially when this whole thread was sparked by Jagex asking for permission to return them and getting a majority support for it.

Nothing against you personally, Lady. But I don't support THAT form of entitlement the others show. And I think you, of all people, having only missed the 1, deserve the chance to get that one.
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16-Aug-2019 15:54:59 - Last edited on 16-Aug-2019 20:06:55 by Whatusaytome

Draco Burnz
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Whatusaytome said :


Nothing against you personally, Lady. But I don't support THAT form of entitlement the others show. And I think you, of all people, having only missed the 1, deserve the chance to get that one.


TFW she did have a chance to get it but choose not to as she mustve been busy IRL or w/e.

So why should ppl get more than one chance at something that's only supposed to be released once?
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16-Aug-2019 21:54:06

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