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Sharp-shin

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Ladyolake said :
If they are exactly same you have a large portion of pple get mad. if you dont give
the items at all you have about same number of people mad.

Partially true, but you're overlooking something: people who are currently playing, are already satisfied (to some extent at least) with the game. If no changes were made, they'd hardly get mad about it, because of the previous sentence being true. On the other hand, you're right that rereleasing the original versions would cause upset, because the satisfaction of the older players, who care about the historical value, would get changed to dissatisfaction.

As someone who has experienced it both ways, that's just how it is. I've missed out on many discontinued holiday items, as an example the santa suit: would I've wanted it? Absolutely. Am I upset that I can't get it? Nope, because it's an optional set of items that doesn't impact the actual gameplay in any way, and because I know that it benefits the game more to reward loyalty than to treat it like disposable trash. Respectively, I've also obtained some discontinued holiday items, as an example the Christmas wand: would I get upset if it was rereleased exactly like it was first released? Absolutely, because I care about the historical value and because Jagex set the precedent that it would be discontinued, so because there'd be no truly important reason to bring back the originals (refer to the part about optional), it'd set a fatal precedent for us (players) that an authority like Jagex could be allowed to do whatever it pleases, without it being held responsible for its actions and decisions.
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19-Oct-2018 22:56:57

Sharp-shin

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Now, it's true that pleasing everyone never works, but what you'd want to do here is focus on the playerbase that has the outliers excluded from it (the outliers being the players who are elitists, and the players who have grown bitter towards elitists). Pick a compromise that makes good use of the discontinued holiday items, such as by making an alternate/improved version of the old for the new/returning players to enjoy, whilst still keeping the distinction between the two clear, for the old players to enjoy the historical value.

It's honestly not that complicated in the concept level; the harder part is communicating with Jagex, since they typically don't listen to us on the RS3 side.
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19-Oct-2018 22:57:03

Whatusaytome
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Sharp-shin said :

It's honestly not that complicated in the concept level; the harder part is communicating with Jagex, since they typically don't listen to us on the RS3 side.
If it isn't that hard, why am I the one making suggestions and you are making up excuses to disagree?

Why can't you suggest something that includes the old items?

I've catered to your elitism already with my picture above as proof of distinction. You can't accept it so we should follow what you believe? Get over yourself.
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19-Oct-2018 23:09:14 - Last edited on 19-Oct-2018 23:10:31 by Whatusaytome

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Jagex should poll the community on something like this.

"Do you personally believe the "historical value" placed on Untradeable Holiday Items by showing you played during an old event and playing still today is a value of enough significance to not bring the items back? Even in a manner to benefit you as the players with access to the old items, as well as benefitting us the company through only releasing for Loyalty Points in Solomon's General Store. Rewarding you for your future loyalty and helping our game grow even more."

Tempted to make a thread on this.

In my opinion it's those still showing loyalty to rs3 who should have the choice. Too many never had a choice in the matter and its rude to ignore that. It doesn't change anything to still have original items displaying you did the original event the way we suggested
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21-Oct-2018 05:01:46 - Last edited on 21-Oct-2018 16:35:53 by Whatusaytome

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CoolBeans568 said :
Pikachu78 said :


Yet thats not true loyalty.

True loyalty would be being a member w/o any need for a reward.
then stop letting them give you loyalty points at all. Let us see that you are "truly loyal" by not being generously rewarded for it.

Otherwise, Pikachu is correct. They reward us for being loyal members regardless of what we choose to spend our points on. Jagex would obviously be OK with adding them to Solomon's, because they asked us if they could. They aren't under any obligation to follow inevitable hate-posts about the topic, because as you guys say, no matter what, you can't please everybody.

This option just pleases more people. The haters need to grow up and realise that the update being suggested does not take anything away from anybody. Historical Value, if that even matters, is not lost with what has been suggested. The only reason you disagree is because you personally feel entitled. And that's a personal issue that you are forcing down everybody's throats, and preventing both sides, Player and Jagex, from benefitting from a positive update.

You guys are way too personal about this historical value to the point you won't accept anything, whether that value is changed or not.

Your disagreement is selfish and is not making anybody stay loyal longer. In fact you are actually trying to prevent a great reason for more people to be loyal for the future, Just to satisfy yourselves when you are already satisfied.
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22-Oct-2018 23:58:00

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just an example that everything that is voted on doesnt happen.

Jagex once asked where we would like runefest and New York in united states won.

That has been many years ago many many and still no runefest in united states.

Just because Jagex asked opinions doesnt mean they are gonna go by the outcome

of the vote.
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23-Oct-2018 05:39:43

Whatusaytome
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Ladyolake said :
just an example that everything that is voted on doesnt happen.

Jagex once asked where we would like runefest and New York in united states won.

That has been many years ago many many and still no runefest in united states.

Just because Jagex asked opinions doesnt mean they are gonna go by the outcome

of the vote.
Gee, a poll where they'd have to spend an insane amount of real money just to host their event overseas, compared to a poll about a rerelease of old items in game which results in profit.. Wow...
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23-Oct-2018 14:10:42

Ladyolake
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yea doesnt matter about money made or lost .....

it was still a vote

and all you can say is that you can't say oh your right they have voted on things they
didnt do.

they knew when they asked the vote about coming to united states it would cost money.

They still asked.

and still didnt do the outcome.. so that is a viable example of Jagex being just
curious to know how things stand. Both for the holiday rewards and for the
runefest in united states.

This is my last post in this thread as all it is doing is going around in circles.
And every thing that can be said has been on both sides it seems.

As I said I was for them bringing it back with "copy" or year gotten if you
examine but even that wasnt good enough even though you would have had
your item. And that was said because i thought it would make both sides
happy.

I shouldnt even post this but figured I would say that going around in
circles is just wasting time when no one wants a compromise.

Good luck in scaping

Ladyolake
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23-Oct-2018 20:42:52

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