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CoolBeans568

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Sharp-shin said :
Pikachu78 said :
player poll passed ,years ago, lets see them in this store already or at least an update on their progress

Jagex already made it quite clear from the 4 years of no action and changing the threshold for polls to pass from 50% yes to 75%, that they invalidated this poll. And it's easy to see why if you think about it: there's always a portion of players on the "yes" group that either vote yes even though they really don't care that much, because they don't realize what the consequences to the game integrity are going to be like, or they do realize but don't care because they personally aren't affected negatively from that poll. That's why they changed to 75% threshold: it's a much better indicator that the update/change is actually healthy for the game, while minimizing the potential amount of quitters from such an update/change.

100% truth. Agreed.

16-Oct-2018 11:20:41

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2020

Whatusaytome

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Sharp-shin said :
Pikachu78 said :
player poll passed ,years ago, lets see them in this store already or at least an update on their progress

Jagex already made it quite clear from the 4 years of no action and changing the threshold for polls to pass from 50% yes to 75%, that they invalidated this poll. And it's easy to see why if you think about it: there's always a portion of players on the "yes" group that either vote yes even though they really don't care.

Screw the threshold you ignorant idiot. And stop trying to assume why people said yes, when more than likely there's just a many who voted no for very personal reasons rather than deciding what's beneficial to the game as a whole.

It doesn't matter what % votes because nothing bad can come from it. They are not betraying you and you need to grow up. There is no gain in keeping them discontinued because they were wrongly made discontinued in the first place. It does nothing for anybody to keep your stupid value, but it largely satisfies many players to bring them back. There is no downside.

You can't acknowledge a single damn thing I say and you definitely aren't capable of understanding or accepting any of the compromises I've offered. Quite simply, you are a troll who won't even offer or read compromises.

@Qwis, I have no quarrel with you, in fact you seem pretty fair generally. My apologies if my frustrations caused by Blackwings ignorance carried over to you. I can understand why you feel not everyone gets something when it's old items coming back, but I already explained that the amount of people with literally all holiday items is few and far between. Even if these were the only items that are added to the game, I can guarantee almost everybody will have something new worth saving and working for here.

I also just wish people would explain themselves logically with a clear stance and open mind.

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16-Oct-2018 19:26:32

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Qwis7

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I do understand your point of view Whatusaytome.
My problem is just that I want to make all people happy, but sometimes this is just not possible.

So I do take a side now and take the support side this, because the only bad thing that could happen in the eyes of the opposite side is losing the historical value of the items.
It will also free people of the "play around holiday events mindset".
So in the end I think more people will support this suggestion.

17-Oct-2018 18:46:09

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2008

Ladyolake

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@Turksta.. I think having the word "copy" in the examine would be perfect for both sides.
Dont see a problem at all with that.

That way historical value stays and everyone gets the item. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

17-Oct-2018 20:07:02

Sharp-shin

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Ladyolake said :
@Turksta.. I think having the word "copy" in the examine would be perfect for both sides.
Dont see a problem at all with that.

That way historical value stays and everyone gets the item.

Examines are way too invisible nowadays, when people don't really care about it anymore, other than spying on other people's stats and gear checking. Many probably don't even know that you can examine the gear; hell, IIRC overrides cannot be even examined.

Might as well make an alternate version that offers something new for both, new/returning players and old players, not just the former.

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17-Oct-2018 20:15:57

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2020

Whatusaytome

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Sharp-shin said :
Ladyolake said :
@Turksta.. I think having the word "copy" in the examine would be perfect for both sides.
Dont see a problem at all with that.

That way historical value stays and everyone gets the item.

Examines are way too invisible nowadays, when people don't really care about it anymore, other than spying on other people's stats and gear checking. Many probably don't even know that you can examine the gear; hell, IIRC overrides cannot be even examined.

Might as well make an alternate version that offers something new for both, new/returning players and old players, not just the former.

You do not remember correctly. You examine a player and any Overrides active appear Over the active worm gear, if any. They are highlighted and Cosmetic Override is displayed in the items stats hotbox.

Examine is a popular feature that people use when they see something they like about a player. Typically for stats or worn equipment. This is not hiding anything about your value. And If anybody on your side actually cares for your stupid value, tell them to keep theirs as an item.

Or buy the override to use if you want the cosmetic appearance during combat, but keep the physical item to prove you were a "legitimate" owner before the change. Not good enough for you? That sounds like a personal problem. And I don't see you making suggestions as alternatives.

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17-Oct-2018 21:24:02

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2020

Whatusaytome

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Ladyolake said :
@Turksta.. I think having the word "copy" in the examine would be perfect for both sides.
Dont see a problem at all with that.

That way historical value stays and everyone gets the item. So because I still don't think you understand. Here is a couple pictures of how it would look.

The only difference between this suggestion, and Keepsaking like I did here... Is that since i am able to keepsake it, i have a physical item form of it reclaimable at any time. while if i had to purchase the override, i would not have a physical copy of the item at all.

If I want the item as an override, without keepsaking the original item so I can prove I own it, this suggestion is helpful for that too.

I MIGHT even support it displaying "Cosmetic Appearance - Santa Costume Top (Keepsake)" or (Original) if it is a keepsaked version to separate them from normal keepsakes and overrides. Though I'd rather this not be necessary because I don't support you thinking these items are meant to brag with.

The reasons I am in opposition to "Copy" and my own idea above is because those almost seem like derogatory terms towards every newer person, in comparison to what terms already exists and have worked for everybody so far.

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18-Oct-2018 00:37:51

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2008

Ladyolake

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I dont brag with what i have, I rarely wear them other than certain times of the year, and
most pple dont even know I have some of the items I do and are surprised when they
see me wear them.

I was trying to get something that would make both sides happy.

I personally had rather them just make new things but to make new players happy that
wont work.

To give or sell the items to players either in game or on SGS would really make some
people mad because of the historical value .. that is the way a lot of people see it.

I go with the flow I know I would like new things but then again someone will be mad.

Never a way to please everyone. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

18-Oct-2018 18:10:30

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Whatusaytome

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You don't support it because some people don't like it? In my opinion, more people get mad at the fact that Jagex caters to elitism and bragging with cosmetics rather than majorities voting to bring nonimportant items back. They, like me, get mad at people feeling more entitled to owning something that they, like you, don't ever really use.

I think there's more who like the items, who don't like them being discontinued than there are those only concerned about preserving history by shunning every single new player.

If you don't use it, and Blackwing doesn't use it, what historic value are you both really protecting? If you are going to quit because they brought cosmetics back, then quit. You don't care about the game anyway if you are threatening to quit over this.

Blackwing keeps saying "Jagex set a precedent when the game was made, and it's not right to change that." But let's be real, why is this precedent they set beneficial or important? What does it do for the game?

Is it still causing new players? Did it ever at all? Is it encouraging people to play long term or get membership?

Does it help the game grow? Is it truly so important as it is that it cannot be changed for the better of both sides?

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18-Oct-2018 19:05:39

Jan

2008

Ladyolake

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I didnt say I didnt ever use it i said rarely or at certain times of year (holidays).

I also said I would like new things just like if you got the old items they would be
"new" to you.

I wouldnt mind everyone being allowed to get the items if you go thru the same
mini quest or whatever that gave to players originally. My son wants some of the
older items same as you.

Again, if they could make them different in some way so more pple are happy then
there shouldnt be an issue with that either. If you are saying its not worth it because
you can turn private on and it not show then that is just something pple would have
to live with. On both sides.

If they are exactly same you have a large portion of pple get mad. if you dont give
the items at all you have about same number of people mad.

There is no winning here.

Back in classic when RS was new it was the thing that everyone knew the holiday
items were not gonna ever come back. So now in RS3 which is the continuation
of that game people know that is how it works.

When OSRS came out on the first holiday and every one after you could get all
the cosmetics and can get more every year.

Just like I said its a no win situation with RS3. some people are gonna get
upset or mad no matter which path is taken.

Me, I would like to have some of those items for my alt or for my son. But
if cant get them then something else will have to do.

Trying to please everyone never works so I have no clue what the answer should
be. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

19-Oct-2018 17:57:00

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