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Sharp-shin

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Ladyolake said :
I dont see how it can be "cheap knock offs" if the untradeable holdiay items have no value.
Almost, Lady, you almost nailed it. What you appear to be saying is that the untradeable discontinued items don't have monetary worth, which is true, however they do have value even so - historical value, that is.
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16-Nov-2018 20:38:17

Pikachu78
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blackwing i know you dont like to accept this, but the community has spoken and DO NOT want discontinued holiday items anymore , there is total proof with the 2016 Christmas event the forum were full of complainers ,majority of the playerbase ,that they couldn't get the items for doing the past events in this event , they technically did the event and deserves the proper reward sure they didnt do it in the original year but they still technically played it when it got re-released and they couldn't get the items they deserved thats not right or fair at all ,and all just to keep them discontinued , they worked for it and actually did the event and should be rewarded properly but nope they couldn't all because of the 20% minor of players that want to be mean and greedy.
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16-Nov-2018 23:52:21

Ladyolake
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Blackwing i was talking more about Turksta saying he didnt want the word "copy" cause
he did not want a cheap knock off.

My comment was meaning if its a cheap knock off then he is saying untradeables do have
value so therefore if that is true then the untradeables need to not be rereleased just
like Party hats and others are not rereleased. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

17-Nov-2018 03:23:37

Turksta

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"I dont see how it can be "cheap knock offs" if the untradeable holdiay items have no value."

Just because an item has no value it doesn't mean cheap knock offs can't be made. The "cheap knock offs" stems from the poll itself where jagex claimed they can release distinct version of the items so the original owners do not get pissed off. However, this would only serve to promote elitism and also promote 1st tier/class and 2nd tier/class etc. People would be like "Ha! you got an ugly grey santa suit while i have the original red one". People like you and blackwing need to get off this idea before you guys further clutter and ruin the game.

Also Blackwing, I may as well say that releasing cheap knock offs of the original may very well ruin this "historical value" of your holiday items as well

20-Nov-2018 06:59:07

Turksta

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"I myself have missed 1(one) untradeable holiday item since the beginning and that
was christmas 2013. personally I would like to do the event to expeirence it BUT
I wasnt there so I dont feel I should get it."

People taking the game so seriously to the point they think they do not deserve a fun silly item. Thats what is wrong with the people in this game.

20-Nov-2018 07:01:20

Turksta

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Pikachu78 said :
blackwing i know you dont like to accept this, but the community has spoken and DO NOT want discontinued holiday items anymore , there is total proof with the 2016 Christmas event the forum were full of complainers ,majority of the playerbase ,that they couldn't get the items for doing the past events in this event , they technically did the event and deserves the proper reward sure they didnt do it in the original year but they still technically played it when it got re-released and they couldn't get the items they deserved thats not right or fair at all ,and all just to keep them discontinued , they worked for it and actually did the event and should be rewarded properly but nope they couldn't all because of the 20% minor of players that want to be mean and greedy. Exactly.

20-Nov-2018 07:01:58

Turksta

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In all honesty, if people like blackwing want to fuck up these items further by releasing identical copies then i'm gonna go and say don't touch holiday items at all. I'd rather have anything than the option of cheap inferior versions entering the game.

Current state of these items being discontinued > cheap knock off clones

20-Nov-2018 07:03:57

Ladyolake
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Its not that I dont deserve it..... I probably used the wrong word....

But the holiday items just say .. "i was there and I did this"

Sorta like having legends cape..... you did the quest so you have the item.

Personally I think I want that one item that would fill in the gap .. the one I missed.
But I also accept the fact that is not how the game has ever worked.

As I said, Jagex is gonna do whatever Jagex wants to do. We as players see
less and less involvement by Jagex to us the players.

Jagex litterly does whatever they want. So I dont see why this thread
continues. It goes in circles. No one wants to compromise. And everyone
thinks they should be the same as the next.

Maybe its the keep up with your neighbor sort of thing.. he buys a new car so you
buy one better...and so on.

I dont want the items in Solomons.. at all... Would I mind them in game? I dont know.
My son sees things on here and says .. I want one of those... and I look and its an item
that you can no longer get and I DO feel sadness that he wont get it as things stand.

But I dont know the answer to this.. No matter what everyone wont be happy.

So I am gonna sit back and just go with the flow and be happy with what I do have.

The items you have do not make the person you are. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

20-Nov-2018 12:48:32 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2018 12:49:28 by Ladyolake

Pikachu78
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the whole point of this thread is there was a poll to re-realse the orignal items in soloms for loyalty points and it passed and there is no status on when this update is to release. i am alwqays willing to share my untradeables , since people have put so much unnecesarry value on the untradeables holiday items i guess its time to make em tradeable., there problem solved then the minorty can keep their items
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20-Nov-2018 23:42:36

Sharp-shin

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Pikachu78 said :
blackwing i know you dont like to accept this, but the community has spoken and DO NOT want discontinued holiday items anymore
The holiday loyalty poll is 4 years old and doesn't meet the 75% threshold to ensure true majority. That said though, it still wouldn't matter even if the majority wanted a rerelease like that; it's not good for the game's long term health. If you feel like the company is selling you out in favor of new players, why would you bother staying? Cosmetics make for great loyalty rewards, as they're entirely optional to get.


Pikachu78 said :
there is total proof with the 2016 Christmas event the forum were full of complainers ,majority of the playerbase ,that they couldn't get the items for doing the past events in this event
Well where is that proof then?


Pikachu78 said :
they technically did the event and deserves the proper reward sure they didnt do it in the original year but they still technically played it when it got re-released and they couldn't get the items they deserved thats not right or fair at all ,and all just to keep them discontinued , they worked for it and actually did the event and should be rewarded properly but nope they couldn't all because of the 20% minor of players that want to be mean and greedy.
It is fair, you just don't think it's popular, which isn't the same as being fair. If you completed an event back then, you got reward X, and if you complete an event now, you get reward Y. To make it fair for you to get reward X, you'd have to travel back in time. But the next best thing is alternative versions; updated, different color, whatever suits best, as they'd be new rewards technically.

Also, where the hell did the 20% statistic come from?
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21-Nov-2018 00:15:34

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