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Sharp-shin

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IMO this would still be one good compromise; it's been quite a while. Being a relatively simple concept though, it could still be improved further:

Sharp-shin said :
1. Introduce a new currency, let's say "holiday points" to give it a name.
2. For every year of membership that you've exhausted, you gain a holiday point.
3. During the respective holiday, once you've completed that year's version of the holiday event, you're able to buy alternate versions of that type of holiday's discontinued rewards with your holiday point(s).

IMO this would be a good balance and make you truly consider what you want the most. > )
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31-Oct-2018 14:33:21

Turksta

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Sharp-shin said :
IMO this would still be one good compromise; it's been quite a while. Being a relatively simple concept though, it could still be improved further:

Sharp-shin said :
1. Introduce a new currency, let's say "holiday points" to give it a name.
2. For every year of membership that you've exhausted, you gain a holiday point.
3. During the respective holiday, once you've completed that year's version of the holiday event, you're able to buy alternate versions of that type of holiday's discontinued rewards with your holiday point(s).

IMO this would be a good balance and make you truly consider what you want the most. > )
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01-Nov-2018 04:10:21

Alienoire

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Personally, I'm strongly against re-obtaining past holiday items. Sure I'd like to be able to get the Scythe I missed out on when I was like, 10. I didn't think I'd still be playing today way back then and didn't really log in everyday. However, I did get the bunny ears, which I'm very proud of and would be pretty upset if it lost it's rarity. So even though I'd like some items myself, I could imagine how those who have said items would feel if I was able to get them, since I myself have an item a lot of people want as well.

I'm not trying to be an asshole and I certainty don't have every single item that I just want to hoard to myself, but there are so few items that are rare left in runescape and I'd like them to stay rare even if it means I'll never get them. Plus as others have mentioned since I made my account in 2001 I have access to all veteran capes as they come out, but that doesn't mean I've been playing since 2001, I've quit multiple times so having the ears makes me feel more special than having those capes.

I would however be okay if Jagex decided to give past holiday items to contest winners in rare occasions, for example: If there was some kind of annual art contest, the first place winner could choose one non-tradable holiday item he/she wishes as a reward. They'd have to show an amazing amount of skill in order to win, so I feel if all they ever wanted was ears then they deserve it. Just don't be giving them out like candy to every lvl 3 who walks off tutorial island is all I'm asking lol, pls.

03-Nov-2018 02:02:58

Turksta

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"Personally, I'm strongly against re-obtaining past holiday items. Sure I'd like to be able to get the Scythe I missed out on when I was like, 10. I didn't think I'd still be playing today way back then and didn't really log in everyday. However, I did get the bunny ears, which I'm very proud of and would be pretty upset if it lost it's rarity. So even though I'd like some items myself, I could imagine how those who have said items would feel if I was able to get them, since I myself have an item a lot of people want as well."

You're against re-obtaining past holiday items but at the same time you wish you could get your hands on the scythe. What fulfills you more - owning a rare bunny ears that matters not in a slowly dying game (meaning your rarity starts to mean nothing) or being able to enjoy the holiday items the way they were intended to be enjoyed. Putting aside all sefishness, I can guarantee you you'd be happier if you had the scythe than not. Also whats there to be proud of in completing a 10 minute event. 99s/max/end game goals are something that should make you proud, not an item you got for free.


"there are so few items that are rare left in runescape and I'd like them to stay rare even if it means I'll never get them. Plus as others have mentioned since I made my account in 2001 I have access to all veteran capes as they come out, but that doesn't mean I've been playing since 2001, I've quit multiple times so having the ears makes me feel more special than having those capes."

There are many rare items left in the game to the point rare items have lost its novelty. Partyhats, easter eggs, pumpkins, black santa hat, holly wreathe, christmas tree hat, event items etc Why would you like items to remain forever unattainable, how does that add to your gameplay? Imagine Jagex catered to this mindset, newer players would quit/never join rs tbh

03-Nov-2018 11:57:29 - Last edited on 03-Nov-2018 11:58:36 by Turksta

Turksta

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"I would however be okay if Jagex decided to give past holiday items to contest winners in rare occasions, for example: If there was some kind of annual art contest, the first place winner could choose one non-tradable holiday item he/she wishes as a reward. They'd have to show an amazing amount of skill in order to win, so I feel if all they ever wanted was ears then they deserve it. Just don't be giving them out like candy to every lvl 3 who walks off tutorial island is all I'm asking lol, pls."

This post is what confuses me a bit. Earlier you said you don't want rarer items to be made available again at all.. but now you're fine if Jagex gave them away in contests/competitions. Quite contradicting messages you're sending here. Anyways, why should players have to bid thousands of dollars for an item that was given for free or better yet dropped randomly in the world? Sounds quite unfair for me. No support. Showing amazing skill etc is a requirement for owning other items in the game like the fire cape etc, not a holiday item. Completely different context. If they do get released, it's only fair it gets distributed via the original method.

03-Nov-2018 12:04:35

Alienoire

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Turksta said :
You're against re-obtaining past holiday items but at the same time you wish you could get your hands on the scythe. What fulfills you more - owning a rare bunny ears that matters not in a slowly dying game (meaning your rarity starts to mean nothing) or being able to enjoy the holiday items the way they were intended to be enjoyed. Putting aside all sefishness, I can guarantee you you'd be happier if you had the scythe than not. Also whats there to be proud of in completing a 10 minute event. 99s/max/end game goals are something that should make you proud, not an item you got for free.


I'd rather not have the scythe than to just see everyone running around with it. Maybe it's the old school in me, but that would just make having the scythe completely pointless. Even though I literally picked up what was considered discard-able ears that where just laying on the ground all those years ago, the fact there's not many left and I kept them turns heads and people always compliment them. It's not the fact it only took a few minutes to achieve it's the fact of owning something discontinued and rare. Runescape has already become easy with how people can just buy their levels, I'd like to keep something they can't buy/get as soon as they hop into the game.

Turksta said :
There are many rare items left in the game to the point rare items have lost its novelty. Partyhats, easter eggs, pumpkins, black santa hat, holly wreathe, christmas tree hat, event items etc Why would you like items to remain forever unattainable, how does that add to your gameplay? Imagine Jagex catered to this mindset, newer players would quit/never join rs tbh


I was speaking about non-tradables which I should've clarified but I did state it in my following post about contests. Those items are only rare because they're expensive not because you can't get them anymore.

04-Nov-2018 03:43:21

Alienoire

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Turksta said :
This post is what confuses me a bit. Earlier you said you don't want rarer items to be made available again at all.. but now you're fine if Jagex gave them away in contests/competitions. Quite contradicting messages you're sending here. Anyways, why should players have to bid thousands of dollars for an item that was given for free or better yet dropped randomly in the world? Sounds quite unfair for me. No support. Showing amazing skill etc is a requirement for owning other items in the game like the fire cape etc, not a holiday item. Completely different context. If they do get released, it's only fair it gets distributed via the original method.


Yes, I get it might be confusing but I was trying to give an example if they were to be obtainable again it should be very hard, via an annual aka yearly event of whatever kind. Where only 1st place winners can pick a non-tradable event item. Obviously it'd be dumb if they could pick a party hat and get a max cash stack, which I'd be against. But I was just simply trying to state if Jagex realllly wanted to give them out again, I'd be okay with something along those lines as it still keeps its rarity since only one person a year would be getting one. If all winners for a decade chose the same item then we're only looking at 10 more people with a scythe or bunny ears which is nothing. Will I lose sleep over the fact everyone's got all past event items if Jagex went that route? No, I'm an adult with bills to worry about not what happens in a game. Would I be upset? Absolutely. Even if the game is dying as you said, which I don't think so, especially since mobile just came out. I still enjoy the compliments and recognition I receive from playing all those years ago.

04-Nov-2018 03:52:53

Turksta

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"I'd rather not have the scythe than to just see everyone running around with it. Maybe it's the old school in me, but that would just make having the scythe completely pointless. Even though I literally picked up what was considered discard-able ears that where just laying on the ground all those years ago, the fact there's not many left and I kept them turns heads and people always compliment them. It's not the fact it only took a few minutes to achieve it's the fact of owning something discontinued and rare. Runescape has already become easy with how people can just buy their levels, I'd like to keep something they can't buy/get as soon as they hop into the game."

No one is going to be running around in an outdated scythe design. Holiday items are barely used/worn at this age of the game. The snowglobe/ice amulet etc got rereleased do you see everyone running around in it? No. I never see people compliment anything nowadays so i don't know about that. If you want something that people can't "buy" as soon as they hop into the game then maybe you should go after partyhats or max capes as they are well beyond the reach of the ordinary player. These untradeables however were not meant to be such status symbols, hence if they do get rereleased then you only have yourself to blame for worshipping such items.


"I was speaking about non-tradables which I should've clarified but I did state it in my following post about contests. ?Those items are only rare because they're expensive not because you can't get them anymore.? "
"Those items are only rare because they're expensive not because you can't get them anymore. Wrong. They are discontinued and they have been unable to acquire for a longer time than bunny ears, hence the very expensive price tag on it. To suggest they are only rare because they're expensive is quite an ignorant statement to say. I'm sure there are more santa hats in gme than rs3 players online yet they r also expensive.

04-Nov-2018 04:23:02

Turksta

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"Yes, I get it might be confusing but I was trying to give an example if they were to be obtainable again it should be very hard, via an annual aka yearly event of whatever kind. Where only 1st place winners can pick a non-tradable event item. Obviously it'd be dumb if they could pick a party hat and get a max cash stack, which I'd be against. But I was just simply trying to state if Jagex realllly wanted to give them out again, I'd be okay with something along those lines as it still keeps its rarity since only one person a year would be getting one. If all winners for a decade chose the same item then we're only looking at 10 more people with a scythe or bunny ears which is nothing. Will I lose sleep over the fact everyone's got all past event items if Jagex went that route? No, I'm an adult with bills to worry about not what happens in a game. Would I be upset? Absolutely. Even if the game is dying as you said, which I don't think so, especially since mobile just came out. I still enjoy the compliments and recognition I receive from playing all those years ago."

You're an adult with bills to worry about not what happens in a game yet you'd be upset if everyone had their hands on an item in a game.. I don't support such methods of handing out old rares because nobody should have to bid thousands and thousands and compete with other players to have access to an item that shouldn't be hard to acquire to begin with.

04-Nov-2018 04:26:04

Sharp-shin

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Alienoire said :
I would however be okay if Jagex decided to give past holiday items to contest winners in rare occasions, for example: If there was some kind of annual art contest, the first place winner could choose one non-tradable holiday item he/she wishes as a reward. They'd have to show an amazing amount of skill in order to win, so I feel if all they ever wanted was ears then they deserve it. Just don't be giving them out like candy to every lvl 3 who walks off tutorial island is all I'm asking lol, pls.

I get that you looked into having a way to be able to truly earn a copy of the old holiday items if you weren't there back then, but... don't you think something like this would be a bit too arbitrary?

As a Runescape competition winner myself, the prize that I truly care about is the one that was unique to the competition itself: signed concept art. Even though it took 1,5 years for Jagex to send it to me (lol), it's a piece of art that, to my knowledge, has never been made publicly available (I can't find any traces of it anywhere online at least), so I might be the only player in the world to own that particular piece (different pieces have been given in other competitions).

That's the kind of prizes that competitions should have IMO: those that are unique to that competition, so that not only are the prizes memorabilia, but also so that they inspire you to give it your all, knowing that the competition is likely the only way for you to ever be able to get your hands on that prize (if the winner doesn't give their prize away/sell it/etc).

So while giving the old holiday items as competition prizes wouldn't add much supply to them at all, the underlying fact still is that dozens, if not hundreds, of thousands of players have already been given them, so they're far from being unique to that player only.
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04-Nov-2018 07:49:52

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