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[#F86JGG3L7]

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If you actually believe for one second that SoF is actually liked, just google it, or go on youtube and look at video likes.
The only thing that gets censored on this forum is dislike. You show me all the support from real players. You show me the 90% of rwt'ers that are worth ruining this game for.

31-Aug-2012 04:27:39

Liroku
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Liroku

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That's not fair, to argue that bots aren't rampant in-game and I can't show you a spot where they outnumber 20 / 1. Which is really a random number...but then say I can't use these bots who you just said aren't that bad as part of the numbers. I am not saying a majority like squeal either. I am saying only a minority don't use it. Regardless of like/dislike, they still make money off of it. So there is enough people that don't hate it for them to want to keep it.
Besides being a money maker, it's also a member incentive as well as quest incentive. It's multi-purpose and not only brings them money, but adds extra incentive to choose to do game content you may not normally try. Maybe what squeal should do is make the 200m much lower, or more rare and take out xp lamps or they could take it out all together and put all the event/cosmetic items in Solomon. Because then rather than have a chance to win it for free you will absolutely have to pay for the Ice Cream Hat or Shark fists.
My main point in this is that, it doesn't really break the game. Inflated economy drives the price up of items, but it also lets you make more money easily. It cancels itself out. Kind of like when the government raises minimum wages and as a result rent, fuel, food, everything goes up to bring everyone right back where they already were. So the money thing is really insignificant.
Then you have XP lamps. They give maybe 2k-6k xp per lamp dependent on level so someone spends hundreds, or better yet extreme case thousands, on spins. They get one of their levels all the way to 99. Ok, how does that affect your life? Do you parents hate you for being a failure because someone has a higher level than you? Did your wife and kids leave because you didn't spend that money you are saving up for a home on spins to keep up with someone else? Why is it so bad that this person spend all their savings and get a level 99 free, but it's ok for someone to bot their way to 99? Nonsense I say.

31-Aug-2012 04:56:24

Aviarei

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I'm not convinced.
If what you mean to say is true... (Micro-Transactions not counting as content updates (WHICH THEY'RE NOT), and weekly content updates updates (Not, "Every other week, oh sorry we're doing a Squeal/Solomon thing as our week's CONTENT update" thing).
Prove it. I will continue to suspend my belief that your words mean something until I see what you promise happen.
I honestly believe, right now, that you only gave us this message (The front post not even being delivered by MMG himself) to make us shut up about how dis-satisfied we are about how the game's direction. Not to reassure us that this is going to get better.
You want to preserve the game's integrity and immersion, but you blatantly put out these pop-up screens for your micro-transactions that we have to close out of, pop-ups for the squeal of fortune that we can't even disable. These micro-transactions are plastered all over the front page, prioritized over your content updates.

31-Aug-2012 04:56:53 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2012 05:01:59 by Aviarei

Kurkis
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Kurkis

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We don’t want players to be able to buy their way to success in Runescape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues Runescape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn’t affect your ability to be successful in Runescape.
Remember these words?
I sure do.
I just wish you stuck with them.

31-Aug-2012 05:00:00

Liroku
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Liroku

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I really don't feel like this gives that much of an unfair advantage. I added it up IF you got a med xp lamp every other spin(which is unlikely) and they give 5kxp(which is much more than they would) you would have to spend $2700 on spins. If you wanted a 99 and to buy it you would be spending more along the lines of $4000 - $5000 or more to get from 1-99 on any given skill.
Anyone that has this money laying around to drop on a game, probably has better things to do than play Runescape. Also, repeating myself, how can people say bots are better than squeal. They give you a much much higher level of inequality than purchasing spins. How can you be ok with someone cheating their way to 99, but against someone spending money to get there, which in turn pays developers to make more game content for YOU to play and to also continue supporting free players. The concept of this completely boggles my mind.

31-Aug-2012 05:07:40 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2012 05:08:21 by Liroku

Eagles Pride

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So, MMG, you feelin' all the love and trust and respect yet? All of those things need to be earned. RS players are finally wising up to the fact that they have BEEN played for years.
SOF INdirectly sells gp and xp. It creates nearly the same advantage for the wealthier (IRL) players as selling those things DIRECTLY.
What happened to "SGS will be cosmetic only"? Are bank spaces cosmetic?

31-Aug-2012 05:13:19

[#F86JGG3L7]

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Yeah and you forget that it takes like a day to get lvl 60 in any skill. You also forget that there are tons of people who have thousands of spare cash to spend. I have a friend who spends like 5k on shoes and t shirts every time we go out, and never wears them...

31-Aug-2012 05:14:06

Liroku
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Liroku

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Does this person owning shoes make your life worse somehow, other than jealousy? Why does it matter if people can buy levels. It would be a small amount of accounts. With all the people that are 99 everything, does that make you not want to play? Does it really matter that someone is higher level than you? It's nothing that you can't achieve yourself for free.
Also, the 1-60 is irrelevant. It takes over 13m xp to get to 99. you don't even hit 1m xp until like 70's. Also, xp lamps only give like 2k xp around 60 and only a few hundred at lower levels.

31-Aug-2012 05:22:37 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2012 05:24:26 by Liroku

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No because I have shoes. However, if I were to play a game with her, and she cheated, I'd steal her shoes irl.
Why are you saying it is ok to bot anyway. It is not ok to bot either.
The 1-60 is relevant because if I get a small lamp on a lvl 1 skill I get like 67 xp or something if I get it on a 99 skill I get thousands of xp so yeah. It is very relevant.

31-Aug-2012 05:24:45 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2012 05:39:28 by [#F86JGG3L7]

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