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Perhaps I "constantly come back to defend the price increase" because I (that is, me personally) want to see jagex stay in business... (again, it goes back to my desire to see jagex keep the doors open so that I have access to the games they offer)... Y'all might very well not want to see jagex remain in business. That doesn't mean others feel the same way.
Lady, i think WE all want to see Jagex stay in business, but maybe it's just that some of us would like to see it stays in business not by artificially passing the bill of every mess onto the players, you like to constantly insist that is' just a "1 more buck"... yeah, and a while afterwards it will be another, just like how the current pricing was just "another" on top of a previous "another" and on and on... so please don't try to play the "i don't wanna see them go under" drama for an argument, if the company can't make it's money back (even if it DOES) AFTER price increases AFTER a lootbox platform on TOP of a MTX platform on TOP of a "you will need to keep up membership for a string of months for some stuff" platform... then maybe the company has a problem that quite clearly isn't fixed by throwing more money at it, some people usually like to dismiss any criticism towards a company with "they need to make money" but apparently, it never occurs to those people that the company also has a responsability to clean it's act if it wants to push for those swarms of "necessary evils", SPECIALLY in a live game that actively RELIES on a community to exist; players already had made the compromise of standing the original Member's Loyalty Program since it was still just a matter of waiting, and then they tolerated Solomon's AND Tresure Hunter coz "keeps membership price down/pays for new updates"... and yet, here we are, with long overdue updates (some of them even half-assed) and membership fees going up anyway... but MTX's still coming out like if shot from a machine gun
Lady, i think WE all want to see Jagex stay in business, but maybe it's just that some of us would like to see it stays in business not by artificially passing the bill of every mess onto the players, you like to constantly insist that is' just a "1 more buck"... yeah, and a while afterwards it will be another, just like how the current pricing was just "another" on top of a previous "another" and on and on... so please don't try to play the "i don't wanna see them go under" drama for an argument, if the company can't make it's money back (even if it DOES) AFTER price increases AFTER a lootbox platform on TOP of a MTX platform on TOP of a "you will need to keep up membership for a string of months for some stuff" platform... then maybe the company has a problem that quite clearly isn't fixed by throwing more money at it, some people usually like to dismiss any criticism towards a company with "they need to make money" but apparently, it never occurs to those people that the company also has a responsability to clean it's act if it wants to push for those swarms of "necessary evils", SPECIALLY in a live game that actively RELIES on a community to exist; players already had made the compromise of standing the original Member's Loyalty Program since it was still just a matter of waiting, and then they tolerated Solomon's AND Tresure Hunter coz "keeps membership price down/pays for new updates"... and yet, here we are, with long overdue updates (some of them even half-assed) and membership fees going up anyway... but MTX's still coming out like if shot from a machine gun
15-Apr-2018 21:40:44
Blak Paladin
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Lady, i think WE all want to see Jagex stay in business, but maybe it's just that some of us would like to see it stays in business not by artificially passing the bill of every mess onto the players
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When a company has rising costs (and they always DO) those costs are necessarily SHARED with the consumer. THAT is how the real world works. Welcome to it.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.
Lady, i think WE all want to see Jagex stay in business, but maybe it's just that some of us would like to see it stays in business not by artificially passing the bill of every mess onto the players
...
When a company has rising costs (and they always DO) those costs are necessarily SHARED with the consumer. THAT is how the real world works. Welcome to it.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.
15-Apr-2018 21:47:34
Angel2D4
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No hope of mtx in OS? Never say never when in fact you don't know what the future holds. And in all honesty, why shouldn't old school have mtx just like the main game does? Why on earth should the RS3 players be the only ones subjected to it? Old school just ain't so "special" as to warrant eliminating them as a method of additional revenue (and not all old school players are as opposed to mtx as you seem to be).
Please look up the concept of systemic or selection bias. People who currently play RS3 are more "okay" with MTX, by virtue of still being around . Because the players who were not okay either quit entirely or moved to OSRS. This is systemic bias, a situation where a selection pressure influences opinion of the subpopulation by removing elements of the subpopulation that hold a differing opinion.
This selection pressure means that the opinion and tolerance of MTX by OSRS can be much different from RS3 players. It's not just players. The OSRS developers are also known to be anti-MTX and have a sense of honor about it. It's likely if OSRS was forced to do RS3-like MTX, the entire development team would collectively resign. Since OSRS is a super proprietary and confusing codebase, it would be impossible to update the game by hiring people off the street without anyone to train or mentor them. In this sense, the OSRS team is in the driver seat. Jagex and the Shanghai holding company running and profiting handsomely from it has to listen to the OSRS team, not the other way around.
"Make the most of yourself by fanning the tiny, inner sparks of possibility into flames of achievement." --Golda M
No hope of mtx in OS? Never say never when in fact you don't know what the future holds. And in all honesty, why shouldn't old school have mtx just like the main game does? Why on earth should the RS3 players be the only ones subjected to it? Old school just ain't so "special" as to warrant eliminating them as a method of additional revenue (and not all old school players are as opposed to mtx as you seem to be).
Please look up the concept of systemic or selection bias. People who currently play RS3 are more "okay" with MTX, by virtue of still being around . Because the players who were not okay either quit entirely or moved to OSRS. This is systemic bias, a situation where a selection pressure influences opinion of the subpopulation by removing elements of the subpopulation that hold a differing opinion.
This selection pressure means that the opinion and tolerance of MTX by OSRS can be much different from RS3 players. It's not just players. The OSRS developers are also known to be anti-MTX and have a sense of honor about it. It's likely if OSRS was forced to do RS3-like MTX, the entire development team would collectively resign. Since OSRS is a super proprietary and confusing codebase, it would be impossible to update the game by hiring people off the street without anyone to train or mentor them. In this sense, the OSRS team is in the driver seat. Jagex and the Shanghai holding company running and profiting handsomely from it has to listen to the OSRS team, not the other way around.
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15-Apr-2018 23:04:00 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2018 23:20:52 by NeuralNet
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