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Team Skull
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I mean, y'all haven't provided any evidence to the contrary (in fact, you started to back off when someone called you out on your lies), so as far as I am concerned, you're talking out of your behind. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 03:22:03 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 03:22:42 by Team Skull

Nexus Origin

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And let's be real here for a moment Nexus:

You don't think this new company, if/when they get 100% control, can command the CEO (since the BoD is a thing) to essentially have the people down at RuneScape duplicate this proprietary information and hire cheap labor in China and potentially net exponentially more profit? You don't think there isn't ONE person in China who DOESN'T have the expertise to work with this stuff if the need arose (and quickly might I add)?

You'd be being less than honest with yourself if you think this is the case. Let's be real here for a moment. Do you think any of the current developers would actually stick around to help someone else take over their job? No one in their right mind trains their own replacement when it means that they will be laid off as soon as the training is done. If such a plan were put into action, all development and upkeep would have to be put on hold while the training is done. And do you really think that they would pay salaries for twice as many employees for months on end while all this training is done?

It's also worth noting that this most likely is just a short term cash flow for the company, and they have no real interest in starting a software development company. There would be no point in relocating everything to China if they simply plan on selling the company a few years down the road.

I would also just like to mention that when someone purchases a money making machine (which is what Jagex is), they generally just let the machine make money. They generally don't start taking it apart and tinkering with it, upsetting the delicate balance of the machine.

I know if I bought a money making machine, I would just plug it in and turn it on, and let it make money. I wouldn't start poking around with the mechanics of it, changing random things I have no knowledge of.
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23-Mar-2016 03:24:49

Tclcis

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Evidence to the contrary of what?

The misunderstanding about the weight of a point? Dilbert couldn't recognise, probably to my poor wording that I was saying a move to China would be unlikely due to difficulty of getting it past the censor. This is not the only thing that makes it unlikely. As Nexus said better, they cant just get cheaper staff and expect to be up and running immediately.

If anything, the points have been made more secure. Not to mention the J mod post in the OP which reflect this.

23-Mar-2016 03:25:29

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I would like to point out that the majority of Jagex's software is non-standard and proprietary. While it may be true that RuneScape is written in Java (NXT being C++ based), there is more to the company than just the RuneScape game client. For example, Jagex servers are running a custom Unix based operating system which is proprietary and not publicly available. The website does not run standard server scripting such as PHP, it uses webscript, which again is proprietary and not publicly available. Even with the game client being written in Java/C++, the game itself is developed in RuneScript, only the game engine is done in Java/C++, and again, RuneScript is proprietary and not publicly available.

To lay off all the employees and relocate the entire company to China with their own employees would be a massive undertaking, and would most likely cost more money than they would save on salaries, as they would need to train all the developer teams to work with systems and languages that they have never used before and that have no public documentation.

I feel compelled to point out that ANYTHING proprietary in this deal becomes the property of the new owners.

Who said 'relocate the entire company to China'? What if they don't even need game developers any longer (and only need a publisher)? ROFL I would get the biggest kick out of that because then my prediction when Insight took control could actually come true and we'll be downloading the game from Nexon!

Seriously guy, anybody has the capacity to learn anything they choose to learn and if this company buying jagex want cheaper labor, you can bet they'll have it in droves.

You assume this language is hard to learn.. because jagex said it is? They also said they'd never bring back the wildy.. or an older version of RS. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Mar-2016 03:34:30

Nexus Origin

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Numerous people in the thread have mentioned relocating the entire company to China.

And don't be ridiculous; they wouldn't purchase a software development company and ceases to develop software, especially when the flagship holds the World Record for being the most prolifically updated game. They might as well have bought the Brooklyn Bridge if they plan on stopping any future updates to the game, because their money would be lost either way.

No one said any of the languages or systems are hard to learn, it's simply a matter of spending the time learning them. And time is money.
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23-Mar-2016 03:37:05 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 03:39:30 by Nexus Origin

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I don't recognise Shanghai Hongtou, do you know the conglomerate name that owns Shandong Hongda?

Maybe you should be doing more research on who is actually purchasing this company called jagex? ROFL "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Mar-2016 03:37:54

Team Skull
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Let's be real here for a moment. Do you think any of the current developers would actually stick around to help someone else take over their job? No one in their right mind trains their own replacement when it means that they will be laid off as soon as the training is done.

Here you are, making more assumptions that there is not one person in China who can not work with this stuff given a blueprint. Out of the billion or so people in China alone, I would honestly bet my degree that AT LEAST 1 person easily has the expertise to work with this stuff seamlessly given the blueprint.

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It's also worth noting that this most likely is just a short term cash flow for the company, and they have no real interest in starting a software development company. There would be no point in relocating everything to China if they simply plan on selling the company a few years down the road.

There actually would be a point: If even 1% of the Chinese Internet population played RuneScape (assuming the IP ban gets lifted and all of the membership is legitimate) without ANY micros involved, you'd be making ~60M USD gross profit a MONTH (which is more than what Jagex makes in a year). Move the offices to China and hire cheap labor with the expertise and you'd ACTUALLY have a pretty damn good reason to relocate.

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I would also just like to mention that when someone purchases a money making machine (which is what Jagex is), they generally just let the machine make money.

If you're buying a company for a 20% premium (assuming the 250M market value is true), especially with the price tag this company allegedly has, you just don't buy it and do nothing with it. That would be quixotic.

You don't buy a vending machine and let it sit there with no soda in it. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 03:38:01

Tclcis

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Who said 'relocate the entire company to China'?.
Yes who did say that?



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I also don't get why so many don't seem to grasp that once this acquisition is complete, it's possible that China will limit the game to only those IN China.

They don't actually need the rest of the world to play their games.. they have enough peeps to fully support it themselves. And for China, that IS business as usual.

Oh yeah it was YOU. So with the rest of your lies, how can we trust anything you say?

23-Mar-2016 03:38:36 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 05:31:26 by Tclcis

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I don't recognise Shanghai Hongtou, do you know the conglomerate name that owns Shandong Hongda?

Maybe you should be doing more research on who is actually purchasing this company called jagex? ROFL
So after being proven wrong, you cant provide the name either? What do you know?

23-Mar-2016 03:39:17

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Evidence to the contrary of what?

Confirmed haven't been reading.

As I said, you're not very good at this :B "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 03:39:54

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