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Tclcis

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I got you covered too!

Players will try to fear monger or just post their lack of knowledge mixed with whatever fears their mind creates. But the evidence just isn't there to support those claims


Would you like to provide evidence for your claims?

22-Mar-2016 09:57:17

Team Skull
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Repeating the same thing doesn't make your statement valid mate. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

22-Mar-2016 10:04:24 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2016 10:10:30 by Team Skull

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What the evidence
strongly
suggests is that the proposed takeover company will not play a part in the game at all. They will leave it
completely
to Jagex.


They will OWN Jagex! So it will be completely be up to the new owners (if it goes ahead) what happens in the business and games owned and released by Jagex.

22-Mar-2016 12:22:01

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I'm curious... How did the mining company even knew Jagex existed? Was it after a careful research of the gaming industry for a company that is "somewhat stable, has one or more strong brands, is big enough, yet small enough that it can be bought without too much regret if it all goes to hell "? Or perhaps someone was doing research about gold mining and happened across a site that sells "runescape gold" and some translation error led to a huge misunderstanding?

What possibilities would the acquisition provide that Jagex didn't have before?

Perhaps you don't realize Jagex is currently owned by a group of investment firms, not gaming hobbists. What do investment firms like IVP and Raines do to make money for their investors? Of course, they buy low and (hopefully) sell high. Finding sellers who sell low and buyers who buy high are what these investment firms supposedly good at. They have financial specialists who do researches on the companies they hold stakes in and relationship managers who help to locate and communicate with deal partners. The chance is that Chinese mining company did not just go online and find Jagex through Google. The fish doesn't stumble into the net. The fisherman casts the net.

What possibilities would the acquisition provide Jagex with? Just money. IVP et al are there to sell Jagex Studio in its entirety. None of Jagex current owners will own any part of Jagex after the deal so what happens to Jagex after it is none of their business anymore. Shangdong Honga (sp?) will be the absolute dictator of Jagex after the deal. I don't think any current Jagex employee know what will happen. For future direction of the future Jagex, obviously the questions can only be answered by its new owner, if they want to tell.

22-Mar-2016 13:47:32

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Repeating the same thing doesn't make your statement valid mate.

The same can be applied to you.

speculation only goes so far. I'm a big entropy fan.

All subtlety and nuance of a napalm enema

22-Mar-2016 14:31:23

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Beast isn't wrong. Not this time. Y'all can play it down if that's what you need, but, well, you know...

Now Dilbert, I have a question for you...

"What possibilities would the acquisition provide Jagex with? Just money."

What 'money' is this deal bringing jagex? Sorry but this mass amount of money being exchanged is going directly to the investors and jagex isn't getting a single penny/coin of it. Only the current owners (the investment firms) are. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Mar-2016 16:51:34

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Beast isn't wrong. Not this time. Y'all can play it down if that's what you need, but, well, you know...

Now Dilbert, I have a question for you...

"What possibilities would the acquisition provide Jagex with? Just money."

What 'money' is this deal bringing jagex? Sorry but this mass amount of money being exchanged is going directly to the investors and jagex isn't getting a single penny/coin of it. Only the current owners (the investment firms) are.

Hate to admit it but his half right Jagex as a game won't see any money or improvements be lucky if the staff even get bonus pay. All the money goes towards the investors unless some of the lucky few employees got share options most wouldn't in any case would get zero benefits as for how much money the new investors would even put back into the game is an unknown factor.

But that the fun of running a business that you own 100% you can say and do anything you want because you paid that $$ and you got the absolute right to do with it as you wish either build it or burn it you bought it. That where a lot of the fear is coming from and no I wouldn't be hedging everything into one company and taking control of it now I think about it if i was simply looking to put that money somewhere safe.

You wouldn't put all your eggs in one basket for a hedge this is a deliberate gamble with an agenda behind it doesn't matter what way you look at it makes little to zero business sense most companies looking to move money buys a bit here and there spreading out the risk over multiple businesses without disturbing day to day operation with little to zero influence.

Got a hundred safer options out there to put that money safer with better returns without paying premium. To be honest I really didn't want to think about it myself but the more you do think about it the more you know it was a take over in essence not because they are looking to hedge.

22-Mar-2016 17:14:08

Captain Rob
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This acquisition is going to be
HUGELY beneficial!

What this acquisition will do is
give the game back to the players.


Players will try to fear monger or just post their lack of knowledge mixed with whatever fears their mind creates. But the evidence just isn't there to support those claims


First off, when you completely color your post, I just can't take it seriously. Maybe that's just me.

For real though, how do you know it'll be "
HUGELY beneficial!
"? You say that we don't have evidence to support our worries, yet I've seen nothing set in stone that says it'll be fine. I can't trust the OP, because it looks like a lawyer wrote it for damage control; so you can't use that.

Also, you can't be serious about saying our fears aren't justified. Coming from someone with over a decade of time invested into this game, I can't be alone in being afraid that it's all going to go down the drain. We have every right to be worried.

I'm not saying that this acquisition is definitely a bad thing, but Jagex has made some terrible decisions in the past, so I'm not going to put all my faith in them.

22-Mar-2016 18:33:55

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To add to what Tokhaar-Rob has said..

To put blind faith in Jagex would be outright stupid (because even they clearly don't know how this will end up, and they've acknowledged that much).

But.. this isn't a matter of 'trust jagex'. Anybody suggesting that only good can come of this and that we should trust (or have faith in) jagex is not considering the reality of the situation. You want us to blindly trust (and put faith in) not just one investment company (or in this case the 3 selling jagex) but to also have blind faith and trust in and for another investment company (out of China) and a Chinese mining company.

And, you want us to do that and blindly believe that ANY company is going to invest such a large sum absent plans that necessarily change the game (simplified: nobody is so stupid as to invest so much and then sit on their hands for 200 years and hope they get their investment back, nobody).

I was all for letting this kid have his dreams but sheesh.. rainbows and unicorns can be found in My Little Pony, not in the business world. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Mar-2016 18:49:01

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