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Angel2D4

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And here I thought Jagex couldn't do something possibly worse than the EOC.

Guess I was wrong.

In defense of the truth.. jagex isn't doing ANYTHING. Jagex is a company owned by investment firms.. it's the investment firms that decide if jagex is sold or not.

The jmods simply work for the company.. they are NOT the company. They might very well be about to lose their jobs (it does sometimes work that way in this type of business transaction).

But no... jagex didn't do anything (and they can't do anything). Not this time. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Mar-2016 21:33:01

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Players will try to fear monger or just post their lack of knowledge mixed with whatever fears their mind creates. But the evidence just isn't there to support those claims


This is why this applies. You guys are making claims that really don't support any logical thinking. Yes the other company will own 100% of Jagex, that's known already. But why would they then not support it? That's where some of you fall short. Would you pay $300m to save you money, and then not support it so that your investment loses money? D4 might, but the rest would see that its counterintuitive.
The company intends to sell Jagex on at a later date when their countries economy is in a favourable condition.
How do I know this? past experience. Japan after WW2 was impoverished, until other countries were like "hey can you make us stuff?". And they did, so well that they started cranking out cars****'s air conditioners and a whole heap of other goods. They had a full blown manufacturing boom. But all good things cant last, and in the 1980's their market started slowing down. So the companies used hedging to not lose all of their money. It worked out quite well for them.

So is it hard to expect that the Chinese company will follow the same example given they are in the same situation? Id say so.

So the evidence is in past experience, and in what benefits the relevant stakeholders. What evidence do you have that says all of this is fairy dust?

22-Mar-2016 22:55:44

Angel2D4

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Dude, what is so hard to grasp about this new company being able (and capable) of taking ALL jagex games to China and locking them down? You are aware that the vast majority (if not all) of Chinese MMOs are already locked down, right? They are regulated by the Chinese government and nobody outside of China can play them (without stealing the identity of someone IN China).

No company is going to invest 300M and then sit and hope it pays off in 200 years.

Wake up dude. You can call it whatever you want but you refusing to see the writing on the wall doesn't mean that the message isn't there.

Poke your head back in the sand and pretend it isn't true. Soon enough you're going to have a rude awakening (and that reality check is gonna pack a punch). The opening post suggests that will happen in about a month. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Mar-2016 23:14:11

Tclcis

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Ill elaborate, in case you didn't know.

Due to Chinese law, runescape isn't allowed to be played or developed due to the protection of culture in China. This is due to the lore in runescape and a few other things.

So they wont ever move the game or the developers to china because that shoos themselves in the foot.

Also, as a HEDGE, they need to move their money out of the country so that it keeps its value while the yuan drops. Bringing it into the country, or doing anything to make their investment lose money is completely counterproductive to why they bought Jagex in the first place.

I know there's general mistrust of China, which stems back to all the propaganda of the Vietnam war. General mistrust of communists. But in this day and age, it doesn't matter.
Just look at who benefits when they decide to do something, they would want to do what's in their best interest. Which in the current climate is buy the game, let it remain as stable as possible or grow it preferably. Then sell it when Chinas yuan gets back its stability.
We shouldn't be worrying about what happens when they buy, it will give Jagex back to the players. We should worry about when it gets sold again.

22-Mar-2016 23:33:34

Angel2D4

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The hard part is: motivation.

Also it ignores the whole situation with the Chinese economy and HENCE the reason for buying Jagex.

So come at me with something less swiss cheese.

First, I'm ignoring your rant about China's politics and economy (because it has nothing to do with this business transaction).

You are aware that Jagex has games (other than this one) right? But let's stop for a min and address this one... you think coding is all that tough? Or that they don't already successfully run other games in China?

The removal of coding to make it suitable for that market (hmm... what is it, a potential 688 MILLION people who use the internet in China) seems like something they'd be in a hurry to do.. because these new customers aren't going to miss things like a prayer cape or skeles or bones or dragons because they never had them.

Now, about those other games that Jagex currently have (or own). Let's just look at FunOrb. You remember funorb, remember?

Yeah, how many games were there (are there still just sitting there)?

Now, imagine every one of those games becoming a mobile ap and it costs a buck to download each.. China has a MUCH LARGER market than what those games have been given access for (much higher percentage of gamers; and let's note that their gamers are not uneducated, with the average gamer being a college graduate).

In the blink of an eye this company could make their money back (and then some) and simply shut down RS because it offends their culture.

Your phone is ringing.. that'll be your wake up call.. =) "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Mar-2016 23:49:18

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Players will try to fear monger or just post their lack of knowledge mixed with whatever fears their mind creates. But the evidence just isn't there to support those claims

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Repeating the same thing doesn't make your statement valid mate.

See? I can repeat saying things too.

Simply because you say 2+2=5 100 times, doesn't mean it actually equals 5. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

22-Mar-2016 23:55:30 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2016 23:56:12 by Team Skull

Tclcis

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Angel2D4, its quite convenient for you to ignore the whole reason Jagex is being bought in the first place.

Why would a mining company buy a game? Why would a mining company pay more than what the game is worth?
You say that they want to cannibalise all the IP of Jagex and sell it to an internal market. But there is nothing stopping them from doing that already. They don't need to buy Jagex to make those games, copyright no longer exists, that's why 90% of companies worldwide have been hacked into and had their information stolen. Its not something that can be policed internationally.

The problem is, you are ignoring the specific facts that disprove your conspiracy because you want to fear this. If you were open to information you would go and make sure what I'm saying is correct.

D4, if you ignore the rest of the post and take out only what you want. How do you expect to get any valid discussion. Its the equivalent of two people saying "nou". Being by definition unreasonable, is there any point for you to even post on a discussion?

23-Mar-2016 00:06:58

Angel2D4

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"Angel2D4, its quite convenient for you to ignore the whole reason Jagex is being bought in the first place."

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Dude.. ROFL

You can't know WHY jagex is being bought but given the adult world, pretty much ANYBODY'S guess would be because the current investors see a way of not only recouping their own investment, but hauling ass on a major profit.

You can claim to know why jagex is being bought, but COMMON SENSE suggests it's nothing more than a company making money off of something they own (go figure!).

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"Why would a mining company buy a game?"

First, you really should do a tad bit more research. The mining company is only the face of it and they will hold a 25% stake (yeah dude, go look, it's another company that will hold majority shares) and they are NOT buying a game. It's a company they're buying.

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"They don't need to buy Jagex"

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Insight didn't 'need' to buy majority shares. They CHOSE to do so.

Dude.. your post simply defines the swiss cheese you claimed earlier. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Mar-2016 00:21:07

Angel2D4

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Oh and about jagex and copyrights...

"This website and its contents are copyright © 1999 - 2016 Jagex Ltd."

Look down near the bottom of this very page.. you'll see it. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Mar-2016 00:22:49

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