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The TomBomb
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I REALLY hope all of these answers are true. Nothing massive being changed to runescape that would be a negative result to this deal, including MTX. If this deal really did help runescape, that would be wonderful and I'd be all for it. Just can't help but worry.

16-Mar-2016 19:31:39

The TomBomb
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First of all, thanks for the update.

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Our approach of putting community at the heart of games development is something we hold dear and has been a massive part of why RuneScape continues to be so successful. If the talks result in an acquisition, we expect to continue with this community driven approach in everything we do.

That's what you expect, but if Jagex as a whole is bought, isn't it true that the new owners can do whatever they want? Of course you guys don't want anything to change (in a game-breaking way, I mean). But once you've been bought by another company, can't they just tell you to do whatever they want you to do?

^That's what I'm worried about

16-Mar-2016 19:35:10

Supper Man40
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First of all, thanks for the update.

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Our approach of putting community at the heart of games development is something we hold dear and has been a massive part of why RuneScape continues to be so successful. If the talks result in an acquisition, we expect to continue with this community driven approach in everything we do.

That's what you expect, but if Jagex as a whole is bought, isn't it true that the new owners can do whatever they want? Of course you guys don't want anything to change (in a game-breaking way, I mean). But once you've been bought by another company, can't they just tell you to do whatever they want you to do?

^That's what I'm worried about


Been thinking the same. There's a lot of "we" in this context, but does "we", as in Jagex, still count once it's sold? :p

16-Mar-2016 19:36:21

The TomBomb
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Jagex hasn't been financially up to what it once was in a long time (if the numbers floating around are true).

Jagex has just posted it's most successful year - ever! I won't disclose or discuss financial information, but we have had a sensational year, and I understand exactly why potential investors are knocking on our door!


That's great to hear, but there are reports about this mining company to have an unsuccessful history, and is in fact going through debt. Wouldn't it be risky to consider their offer if they are not financially stable?

While the company did lose money, last I heard, they usually make tens of millions in profit a year. The number I hear floating around is $150 million a year.

16-Mar-2016 19:38:49

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First of all, thanks for the update.

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Our approach of putting community at the heart of games development is something we hold dear and has been a massive part of why RuneScape continues to be so successful. If the talks result in an acquisition, we expect to continue with this community driven approach in everything we do.

That's what you expect, but if Jagex as a whole is bought, isn't it true that the new owners can do whatever they want? Of course you guys don't want anything to change (in a game-breaking way, I mean). But once you've been bought by another company, can't they just tell you to do whatever they want you to do?

^That's what I'm worried about


Been thinking the same. There's a lot of "we" in this context, but does "we", as in Jagex, still count once it's sold? :p


No, even if this happens, the company does not gain creative freedom over Runescape.

16-Mar-2016 19:39:28

The TomBomb
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First of all, thanks for the update.

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Our approach of putting community at the heart of games development is something we hold dear and has been a massive part of why RuneScape continues to be so successful. If the talks result in an acquisition, we expect to continue with this community driven approach in everything we do.

That's what you expect, but if Jagex as a whole is bought, isn't it true that the new owners can do whatever they want? Of course you guys don't want anything to change (in a game-breaking way, I mean). But once you've been bought by another company, can't they just tell you to do whatever they want you to do?

^That's what I'm worried about


Been thinking the same. There's a lot of "we" in this context, but does "we", as in Jagex, still count once it's sold? :p


No, even if this happens, the company does not gain creative freedom over Runescape.

They would own 100% of jagex. If they wanted to, they could fire every single person that works for jagex and close runescape. Not that they would, but yes they WOULD have full creative freedom. Jagex is just saying they will probably leave it to the professionals, aka, current jagex employees. Meaning they wouldn't EXPECT them to, but they CAN if they wanted to. You really need to read the main post more carefully.

16-Mar-2016 19:43:16 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 19:43:37 by The TomBomb

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First of all, thanks for the update.

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Our approach of putting community at the heart of games development is something we hold dear and has been a massive part of why RuneScape continues to be so successful. If the talks result in an acquisition, we expect to continue with this community driven approach in everything we do.

That's what you expect, but if Jagex as a whole is bought, isn't it true that the new owners can do whatever they want? Of course you guys don't want anything to change (in a game-breaking way, I mean). But once you've been bought by another company, can't they just tell you to do whatever they want you to do?

^That's what I'm worried about


... :p


No, even if this happens, the company does not gain creative freedom over Runescape.

They would own 100% of jagex. If they wanted to, they could fire every single person that works for jagex and close runescape. Not that they would, but yes they WOULD have full creative freedom. Jagex is just saying they will probably leave it to the professionals, aka, current jagex employees. Meaning they wouldn't EXPECT them to, but they CAN if they wanted to. You really need to read the main post more carefully.


Regardless, with the way Jagex handles development of Runescape, the company would not gain creative rights over the game. When Tencent Holdings (another Chinese investor) bought out RIOT games and became their majority shareholder they never gained Creative Rights, even when owning over 70% of the company itself.
Not to mention the company is trying to be an Investor, not a full owner. There is a major difference. Also Jagex staff have a lot more protection than you seem to think.

16-Mar-2016 19:49:23 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 19:51:04 by Krashino

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If they wanted to, they could fire every single person that works for jagex and close runescape.


Not even that.

If their yes man decides to say no, they can simply unanimously decide to fire the CEO (and other executives if they so choose) and put in people that are not only yes men, but yes sir men.

Creative Freedom means diddly **** when you put this into context.
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16-Mar-2016 19:53:59

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