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Torenso

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It will force the GP farmers to lower their prices. Making software for this stuff is lengthy and expensive. It may not stop the big names in the farming business but it will deal a heavy blow and kill off some of the mid to low range hackers.

25-Sep-2013 23:52:38

Rho

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It will force the GP farmers to lower their prices. Making software for this stuff is lengthy and expensive. It may not stop the big names in the farming business but it will deal a heavy blow and kill off some of the mid to low range hackers.

Jagex prices are already at $0.71 per M and going up. I believe there will be enough players buying them to keep the bond price low. But those buying wont be the ones who RWT before bonds.

25-Sep-2013 23:54:46

Vakitos

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Couldn't it backfire and end up attracting players to gold buying? Players who'd never thought about membership/cash/gold trades will start through bonds, and then may realize prices are cheaper in the black market and go there instead. Even if the prices lower, they might start getting more bussiness.

25-Sep-2013 23:55:07

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u also bann serveral real players without giving us a chance to apeal and off of a SINGLE REPORT i was reported ONCE i dont like to communicate with the world in game cause normally its toxic or full of trolls... im a REAL ******* PLAYER and i lost my main account with no way to recover it... i have earned all my stats and wasted all my time now... this update is something i think would help RS but it wont effect gold farmers... now they just get to keep buying mems with there endless gold but this will make ur real players very happy.... if they arnt ban or getting bann for crap reports

25-Sep-2013 23:55:18

Ghosttalon
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I'm kinda sad to see the game officially go pay2win now. We'll see how it goes, I guess.
RuneScape is never going to be pay-to-win.

Having good items and gear but not knowing how to use them most effectively is still going to leave the player in that situation at a disadvantage to players who have developed their experience over time (both in terms of in game XP and knowledge of the game).
The only reason this statement is even a little bit true is because Jagex has not yet figured out how to sell knowledge of the game; every other advantage is being sold. Just wow for a statement. Muhammad Ali would be proud seeing the weaving and bobbing trying to justify this as not a pay to win.


You know the mods think we're idiots when they try to pass something like this off as an argument.

Redfox, I'm not that stupid. I'm willing to bet that most of the players that are posting what are coherent arguments here aren't either.

How do you think you will get away with a statement like this?

25-Sep-2013 23:55:54

Booty Salad

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While you have gained free membership from your gp someone else has spent real money to pay for your membership at a current rate of twice what it would have cost you. What you saved....was actually paid for by someone else at the rate currently of 2 times what it would have orginally cost. Classy.

Yes. I know what I did, and I know what whoever sold it to me did. I don't think you understand that we both did it by CHOICE. Jagex is selling "your" gold, sure, but only if you CHOOSE to sell it, at a price that you CHOOSE is fair. Whoever bought the bonds CHOSE to buy them, and CHOSE to sell them to me of an AGREED amount of rsgp. That's what they DECIDED a safe transaction of $-to-rsg* was worth, that is what I DECIDED a safe transaction of rsgp-to-$ was worth.

So your finally seeing what ive been saying for 20 pages, what actually happened was Jagex profited off of somethinig that they have already charged you to get....and your okay with that......ok ....

I've seen what you've been saying ever since you explained your reasoning of "their" property being "our" property, I get where you're coming from.

Now all I'm asking of you is to see what I'm saying. Nobody made me do this. Nobody sold "my" gold. I made the .....CHOICE..... to sell it.
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25-Sep-2013 23:56:03

Torenso

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It will force the GP farmers to lower their prices. Making software for this stuff is lengthy and expensive. It may not stop the big names in the farming business but it will deal a heavy blow and kill off some of the mid to low range hackers.

Jagex prices are already at $0.71 per M and going up. I believe there will be enough players buying them to keep the bond price low. But those buying wont be the ones who RWT before bonds.

To be fair bonds aren't in yet. This will hopefully driv e them down.

25-Sep-2013 23:57:07

HalloweenFox

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I like that I can finally buy membership via bonds by playing the game. Yes, players get an advantage because of real world wealth, but now players who do not have a lot of real world wealth can benefit by earning membership through playing the game.

You act like no one paid real money for the bond to begin with....you are benefiting from someone else....You have recieved 14 days of membership that someone else has paid 2x the going rate for and your happy about that....ok.
And that person is benefiting from the money the received in exchange for the bond. It's an open market with no pressure. Nobody's being oppressed or harmed by the trading of these items. If they were, they would stop trading them. It's not that hard to understand.

If you can't see the scam in this entire update, i don't know what to say...
If you can't see that what I said is true, I don't know what to say...
explain to me what part of this exactly is a scam. If you're going to tell me the scam is the company making it possible to pretty much buy items with real world money then just stop because that is not a scam. People who buy the bonds know exactly what they're doing when they buy them and exactly what they're getting.
AGAIN: if both parties are fully aware of the terms of and are satisfied from the result of the transaction, then it's not a scam
I expect you to now say something like "you're an idiot" or "you just don't understand" in response to what i said, to which i will save both our times and give my response that you still haven't actually given me a rational reason as to why this is a scam

25-Sep-2013 23:58:16

Kuro Pansa
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First of all, if you payed any attention to the video, or read the news post, you would find they didn't say anything about this being an effort to stop RWT.

Secondly, you just agreed that RWT is going to happen regardless. Would you rather see that money go to the people who utilize their minds and energy to allow you to play it, or the lowlife parasites that flood the game with automated money machines and constant intrusive private chat spam? ...okay.

You can't respect a company for keeping hard working minds employed despite all of the efforts of persistant thieves and an ungrateful community to undermine and belittle their efforts? ...I guess that's cool, too.
Quote Mod MMG post:

"While our efforts against botting and gold farming have been increasingly effective, our analyses have shown that a long-term real-world trading problem persists."

"This is an incredibly dangerous problem that we’re determined to solve in the interest of the long-term health of the game."

Obviously it was you that didn't read the post.

You're putting words into my mouth I never said:

My issue regarding not respecting Jagex over this is because they keep touting an anti-RWT, play2win message while at the same time continually introducing new RWT and pay2win systems of their own.

I also don't object to Jagex making money, they're a for profit company after all. It's the hypocrisy I have a problem with. That and the fact that they're selling out their morals for nothing. This isn't going to work. As I said in the original post, the gold farmers will just undercut the Jagex price and nothing will change.

25-Sep-2013 23:58:35 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2013 00:01:21 by Kuro Pansa

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