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Booty Salad

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So...you are essentially selling gold now?
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I've re-read it a few time to make sure I'm not misunderstanding something, but that's what it sounds like to me since you can buy these bonds with rl money and then sell them for ingame gp....


Yes, Hobbes. They're selling gold with a bunch of pretty distractions around it to attempt to pull attention away from the fact that they're finally admitting it. No one that actually buys them for irl money is going to do anything except for sell them for rsgp. What happens after that then becomes available to the other options.
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25-Sep-2013 23:44:26

Tromosthus
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I'm kinda sad to see the game officially go pay2win now. We'll see how it goes, I guess.

RuneScape is never going to be pay-to-win.

Having good items and gear but not knowing how to use them most effectively is still going to leave the player in that situation at a disadvantage to players who have developed their experience over time (both in terms of in game XP and knowledge of the game).

The only reason this statement is even a little bit true is because Jagex has not yet figured out how to sell knowledge of the game; every other advantage is being sold. Just wow for a statement. Muhammad Ali would be proud seeing the weaving and bobbing trying to justify this as not a pay to win.

25-Sep-2013 23:44:40

Brad 76

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I like that I can finally buy membership via bonds by playing the game. Yes, players get an advantage because of real world wealth, but now players who do not have a lot of real world wealth can benefit by earning membership through playing the game.


You act like no one paid real money for the bond to begin with....you are benefiting from someone else....You have recieved 14 days of membership that someone else has paid 2x the going rate for and your happy about that....ok.

And that person is benefiting from the money the received in exchange for the bond. It's an open market with no pressure. Nobody's being oppressed or harmed by the trading of these items. If they were, they would stop trading them. It's not that hard to understand.


If you can't see the scam in this entire update, i don't know what to say...

25-Sep-2013 23:44:45

Transcendent

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I like that I can finally buy membership via bonds by playing the game. Yes, players get an advantage because of real world wealth, but now players who do not have a lot of real world wealth can benefit by earning membership through playing the game.


You act like no one paid real money for the bond to begin with....you are benefiting from someone else....You have recieved 14 days of membership that someone else has paid 2x the going rate for and your happy about that....ok.


I know someone else paid for the bonds, Jagex profited, and so do I because I get membership from playing. At least now those who do not have a lot of real world wealth can benefit and Jagex who made the game gets the profit instead of someone who did not work on the game and was hurting the game.

Is it still someone getting an advantage in game because they have real world wealth, yes, absolutely. But now the player who does not have a lot of real world wealth can finally benefit also and earn their membership by just playing the game.

Yes I am OK with bonds.
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25-Sep-2013 23:45:55

Brad 76

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So...you are essentially selling gold now?
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I've re-read it a few time to make sure I'm not misunderstanding something, but that's what it sounds like to me since you can buy these bonds with rl money and then sell them for ingame gp....


Yes, Hobbes. They're selling gold with a bunch of pretty distractions around it to attempt to pull attention away from the fact that they're finally admitting it. No one that actually buys them for irl money is going to do anything except for sell them for rsgp. What happens after that then becomes available to the other options.


The difference once again in this update and the past updates is this is the first time they have sold the gp in our banks.

25-Sep-2013 23:46:22

SoftMints

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So from what I'm understanding, Jagex hopes that the introduction of these bonds will put a pressure on gold farmers to reduce their prices (to be competitive with bonds) to the point where profit on their part is not worth the time invested, thereby killing the trade.

I can see the merit in this.

At the same time, however, the introduction of these bonds is the final nail in the coffin to Jagex's old moral standards; It is, in fact, a form of selling gold. It may not be introducing new gold into the economy (thank God for that), but they are selling a tradable item that only enters the game through real-world purchase. Such an item is bound to carry a high price tag in terms of in-game GP, and thus Jagex is selling the opportunity for easy gold.

I can't be happy about this. It's a compromise to the game's integrity and, in my opinion, causes just as much harm (if not more) than what the gold farmers cause.

This is another case of removing free trade; different in nature, but equally detrimental to the health of the game. And as was the case with limiting trade, the negative implications of real-world purchase of in-game advantages will largely discredit whatever positive effects come of it.

This is speculation on my part, of course. Only time will tell for sure.


I agree with this post.

25-Sep-2013 23:47:44

Booty Salad

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Before stating your rhetorical implication-based assumptions, why not simply ask a question instead?

Oh, right. You're so blindly ignorant over this update that you're just going to deficiently try to condescend me with some illiterate attempt at an insult. Forgot this was the popular trend on forums.

Let me clarify your unwarranted stupidity for you, please. That all depends on who I'm selling my rsgp to. No I'm not going to sell it to some illegal collection of half-***ed thieves. But if the company that I'm getting it from (Not even mine, it's legally still theirs) gives me an offer to buy it back and give me real cash back that I've put into the game........ Nevermind, you'll figure it out.


Well since there are no consequences against having broken the rules by engaging in RWIT with gold farmers in the past let me be direct. Did you buy GP from gold farmers before today's update?

Had you taken the time to read my posts before becoming so insulting, you might have noticed I think the bonds update is a good one and has a lot of good outcomes for a wide variety of players.

What I am upset with is Jagex being aware of cheaters, being able to identify them, and letting them continue with a wink-wink nod-nod and gain advantage over honest players.

The condescending way in which you respond to people gave me the impression that you were part of the 40%. Sorry if I got it wrong from the way you chose to express yourself.


I had no prior reason to read your posts. I replied to someone else, you took it upon yourself to enter that conversation and engage me disrespectfully. That's what you got in return. I've no further desire to continue an exchange with you.
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25-Sep-2013 23:50:21

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