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Nubeel
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So...

Player A buys 1000 bonds and sells them to player B.

Player A now has 7bil, or W.e the value is.

Player C did not purchase any bonds to sell.

Player A now has an ingame advantage over Player C due to Irl wealth.

Good job Jagex..
Player A would still not have the skills and XP required to use any items they may have traded bonds for. Nor will the player have the knowledge of the game to be able to use those items most effectively. The player will still have to invest their time in the game to increase their XP and to learn how, or where, is best to use the items.

Player C may well still be more successful than Player A depending on their experience and time spent within RuneScape.

In addition to this your Player B who has purchased the bonds is able to gain membership, additional spins, or RuneCoins by purchasing those bonds.


What you just said is based on the assumption that player A is a noob and just started playing the game 4 minutes ago. People who just started playing a game do not spend large amounts of money on it. Most people who play RS started out as free players then when they found that they enjoyed the game (before you ruined it with microtransactions, real world trading, the EoC and RS3) bought membership and then later on progressed onto buying gp. Also Player B is now capable of buying 40k spins if we assume that he/she bought those 5k bonds which would give them a spectacular amount of XP and an advantage over poorer players either irl or ingame or those who don't like the idea of RWT.

And More money being brought into the game isn't the issue in discussion so please stop referring to it. The issue is people buying bonds and trading them for gp to gain an advantage. If you're so worried about excess cash ingame get rid of the alchemy spells. I'm pretty sure that's where most of the money came from.

25-Sep-2013 23:05:39

Transcendent

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I see how this could hurt gold farmers, however I am not sure it will stop them. Any reduction in them though is good.

I hope real players will not be tempted to bot more with side accounts to earn gp for their mains to buy bonds and pay for membership. This would likely of course result in their mains being banned, so really not a good idea if anyone was thinking of doing this.

Bonds could benefit players who have time to play but not a lot of real life money, who could trade items they produce in game to buy bonds and use the bonds to pay for membership. I see this as a good way to help those who do not have a lot of real life GP to be able to afford membership.

Jagex profits because players buy the bonds with real life money, so someone is paying for the memberships. Profits for Jagex could in fact increase if players buy the bonds, and the players who buy them would be safer buying from Jagex instead of from a dodgy third party RWT site.

If anyone merchants the bonds, this will reduce GP in game because of the tax on making them tradeable again, resulting in deflation which could be good for the average player since items they produce could be worth more.

Overall, I think this may reduce the amount of players cheating in game and hopefully improve the game's community.

I am interested to see how this turns out over time.

I look forward to trying to earn some membership by playing the game, and maybe making some of my F2P accounts members for a short time each.

I am glad Jagex is continuing the fight against botting and RWT. I have happily noticed a large reduction in bots in game.

Only time will tell, but I believe bonds could be good for the game in the long run. Hi.

25-Sep-2013 23:05:53

Booty Salad

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First of all, if you payed any attention to the video, or read the news post, you would find they didn't say anything about this being an effort to stop RWT.

Secondly, you just agreed that RWT is going to happen regardless. Would you rather see that money go to the people who utilize their minds and energy to allow you to play it, or the lowlife parasites that flood the game with automated money machines and constant intrusive private chat spam? ...okay.

You can't respect a company for keeping hard working minds employed despite all of the efforts of persistant thieves and an ungrateful community to undermine and belittle their efforts? ...I guess that's cool, too.


Point 1. You're right. They merely said this was a way to stop illegal (non-Jagex) RWT. Which is arguable, and the argument fails once one starts to think about it.

Point 2. They rewarded a lowlife parasite and persistent thief by giving him a job at Jagex. And this is what we get. Rather than cheaters actually being punished. Or aren't you aware of Mod Jacmob's former criminal activities?

Very great points, Ghosttalon. As far as the first, it's definitely just an attempt thus far, but I would very much so like to see it succeed and see gold farming websites eliminated.

Secondly I've heard about him/her, but never looked into it myself so could neither personally verify or deny your statement at the moment, but I would assume it is true. I was discussing the 3-strike ban policy earlier with someone who felt all rulebreakers should be terminated on the spot. I'm a strong believer in rehabilitation. I perceive that specific scenario as an act of such, I would assume he's not being paid to flood the game with bots, but is being paid to use his abilities positively to improve the game experience.
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25-Sep-2013 23:05:56

Catherine
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How else is jagex going to come up with a solution? Why don't you put yourself in their shoes? You own a game which several hundred thousands of people pay membership for and their are many more playing the free version. Third parties are botting to obtain gold to sell for their own gains. This mass amount of gold causes inflation, ruining the game's economy. What can you do? Banning/wiping buyers means members are lost - jagex loses out. Banning the gold farmers doesn't really do much, they'll just make new accs and start over. Become the supplier, and that takes away business for the gold farmers and also prevents the game economy from being less ruined, more members due to f2p being able to get membership and people don't need to spend money on sof/sgs.

YOU GUYS ARE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT.....they are not a supplier....they are selling the gold that is in OUR BANKS. They are not injecting any NEW gold as has been stated over and over by our robot mod thats replying thats because they are selling the gold that is in OUR BANKS.

They are supplying a way to obtain gp with real-life currency. It's their game, their pixel items. You know what they say; everything in our lives are borrowed. Nothing material is truly ours, although we like to think it :P The only thing that is ours is our time. If someone wants to spend time working outside runescape to buy stuff inside runescape, that is their choice. At least there's a legit way to do it now. If someone wants to spend time on runescape to make gp and achieve what they want, that is also their choice.
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25-Sep-2013 23:07:19

Aubie

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The only way this could work is if Jagex behind the scenes bought up the overflow of bonds coming into the game which they will...... More people are going to be selling than buying these things 100 to 1 easy... I mean really 8 spins or 160 runecoins besides the membership offer we pay half the price less for already? They know exactly what they are doing they just have to sugar coat it for the crybabies.

25-Sep-2013 23:07:54

Sir Brad
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Rules of RuneScape:

"We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape."




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25-Sep-2013 23:08:08

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