RuneScape Forum Archive | An Important Message

Welovecorp

Posts: 2,997 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

so now it becomes a social experiment. The players say it is their item since they "gave birth" to the items existence itself.

However Jagex say it is their item since it is their game, wich it is.

i think there could be a massive class action lawsuit against mmorpg's someday and players could "win" the right to "own" a portion of their banks <3

edit: I truly love the bonds and would advocate on behalf of jagex in any type of battle they had to face irl or in game

25-Sep-2013 22:57:17 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 22:58:29 by Welovecorp

Oct

2015

Orcrist9

Posts: 7,183 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Original message details are unavailable.

First of all, if you payed any attention to the video, or read the news post, you would find they didn't say anything about this being an effort to stop RWT.

Did you not pay attention to the video or the news post? They mentioned several times that one of the purposes of this is to end RWT. While they may not have explicitly stated that was the sole purpose, they did so very implicitly. You do not have to directly state something for it to be true or stated in anyway, and they did state that this would, in their eyes, end RWT.

So, through logic and reasoning, we can know that they created Bonds for the purpose of combating RWT. This method of reasoning is generally explained as "reading between the lines."

Here, I'll give you this strawberry if you keep it a secret!

25-Sep-2013 22:57:21 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 22:57:42 by Orcrist9

Izuku_MHA

Posts: 93 Iron Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Original message details are unavailable.
Original message details are unavailable.
First of all, this is your own RWT system, even more so then buying spins for the sof was, so any further statements that you are against RWT are going to be patently false. Second, this isn't going to work since the gold farming sites will simply undercut your price. If you were truly against RWT you would ban the 40% you've identified as buying gold and keep banning them until they got the message, rather then selling your own gold.

I won't say I'm going to quit or anything like that, since I don't really care. Gold farmers and RWT are going to happen. I don't like that fact, but a fact it is. I don't do it, nor do anyone I'm friends with, and that's all that matters to me. I doubt I'll ever buy a bond, either for gc or real world cash, since as mentioned I don't engage in RWT and buying it for gc is going to be far too expensive.

I'd say I'm disappointed in you Jagex, but after the sof and buying spins, in this area you didn't really have much respect left to lose.

First of all, if you payed any attention to the video, or read the news post, you would find they didn't say anything about this being an effort to stop RWT.

Secondly, you just agreed that RWT is going to happen regardless. Would you rather see that money go to the people who utilize their minds and energy to allow you to play it, or the lowlife parasites that flood the game with automated money machines and constant intrusive private chat spam? ...okay.

You can't respect a company for keeping hard working minds employed despite all of the efforts of persistant thieves and an ungrateful community to undermine and belittle their efforts? ...I guess that's cool, too.

this ^

25-Sep-2013 22:59:03

Jan

2022

Icefire531

Posts: 7,383 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

better idea. 10% tax on the ge.

boom gf alot of gp.

25-Sep-2013 22:59:15

Feb

2012

MrBirk

Posts: 201 Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Its been along time coming, but in all serious is needed. I know a lot of people are going to rage about being able to buy in game wealth, but people were doing it already...

Jagex says 40%, I am seriously surprised it is that low. This is a way for Jagex to recieve monetary compensation for their game which is currently being taken away by illegal gold farmers.

Gold farmers do pay for membership but are banking hundreds of thousands easily if not millions of dollars on top of their cost. No business can run if profitability is non existent.

While I understand Jagex has long said they would never allow people to buy their way into the game, at the end of the day people can do it anyways, this is a way for jagex to reap the rewards and SHOULD in the long term benefit the game by allowing the Jagex team to reclaim the money that gold farmers have been stealing.

I realize the arguement if Gold Farmers didnt exist at all then rwt wouldnt exist. But it does, its obviously profitable, and in all seriousness is hard to stop...

It's like America's "War On Drugs" Billions down the drain trying to stop something which is obviously not hindered on the street...

I applaud the change, its a huge one, will be a lot of rage at first but I do believe its the best for the long run.

25-Sep-2013 22:59:35

Muffboy 4

Posts: 564 Steel Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Original message details are unavailable.
Player A buys a bond for $5

Player A sells the bond on the GE for 10 million gp.

Player B buys the bond on the GE for 10 million gp.

So what has happened???.....
Jagex has charged player A for 10 million of Player B gp.

This is way worse than them selling gold, that is what they do on the sof,
this is a giant leap forward....now they are selling the gold in our banks.....

So many other games do this, and no one complains. Why is Runescape the one exception?

25-Sep-2013 23:00:08

Muffboy 4

Posts: 564 Steel Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Original message details are unavailable.
Its been along time coming, but in all serious is needed. I know a lot of people are going to rage about being able to buy in game wealth, but people were doing it already...

Jagex says 40%, I am seriously surprised it is that low. This is a way for Jagex to recieve monetary compensation for their game which is currently being taken away by illegal gold farmers.

Gold farmers do pay for membership but are banking hundreds of thousands easily if not millions of dollars on top of their cost. No business can run if profitability is non existent.

While I understand Jagex has long said they would never allow people to buy their way into the game, at the end of the day people can do it anyways, this is a way for jagex to reap the rewards and SHOULD in the long term benefit the game by allowing the Jagex team to reclaim the money that gold farmers have been stealing.

I realize the arguement if Gold Farmers didnt exist at all then rwt wouldnt exist. But it does, its obviously profitable, and in all seriousness is hard to stop...

It's like America's "War On Drugs" Billions down the drain trying to stop something which is obviously not hindered on the street...

I applaud the change, its a huge one, will be a lot of rage at first but I do believe its the best for the long run.

How is gold buying costing them money?

25-Sep-2013 23:01:17

Welovecorp

Posts: 2,997 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

LOUD APPLAUSE!!!

Thank you for the opportunity to donate to charity!!!! with my lovely loot pile <3

May god bless Jagex and all its players!!!!

25-Sep-2013 23:02:37

Brad 76

Posts: 1,380 Mithril Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Original message details are unavailable.
Original message details are unavailable.
Original message details are unavailable.
Original message details are unavailable.
Gold farmer sites sell Jagex gold.

Bonds = Jagex selling our gold we have earned in game.

The mod that has been responding is correct no "new" gp is entering the game....that is because they are selling the gold that WE have.

Incorrect. Everything in game is property of Jagex. You confirmed a user agreement about that.

Correct: Bonds = Jagex selling their own gold

ROFL Of course its their ultimately....it's their game. I was showing what they are doing not trying to make a point as to ultimate ownership of the property...

Wondering how you would feel about Jagex selling the stuff in your bank, thats...what they are doing.... does that not make sense to anyone but me?

Of course it's all thiers....they just have never made money off of what WE had before today.

It's pixels that you acquired on a video game, not the possessions in my house. Nothing is missing from my bank, they're selling gold... I have gold... That's cool. I just used what I made in one night at Vorago to pay for 10 months worth of membership.

Do you understand what that means? Not only do I still have jagex's pixels in jagex's bank, but I just saved $60 of real..... actual..... currency.

"ROFL"

While you have gained free membership from your gp someone else has spent real money to pay for your membership at a current rate of twice what it would have cost you. What you saved....was actually paid for by someone else at the rate currently of 2 times what it would have orginally cost. Classy.

25-Sep-2013 23:03:35

May

2009

Envy

Posts: 3,520 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Original message details are unavailable.
Original message details are unavailable.
what an absolute shame Jagex, by cutting out real world traders you've started it yourself, what a sad day, 9 years i worked on my account but someone can spend £60 to get what i worked for instantly
There are a number of things that people will never be able to get instantly that you have spent that time on. The first of these is the XP and skills you have developed - both your skill levels and the knowledge of how to use items most effectively. That is something only time can give a player. Original message details are unavailable.
Original message details are unavailable.
In the same way Jagex would never sell GP?
Jagex are not selling gold and have no intention of doing so. The introduction of bonds does not result in any extra gold being introduced into the economy which is not already present in the game. Well after reading everything on this forum post about this i think its time i put my 2 cents in.
These Bond things are technically Jagex selling GP to the players. you buy a Bond you sell it to the GE you get money pure and simple.
And you saying stuff like what i quoted above.. If people buy "Gear" and don't know how to use i'm sure we all have a brain to go to YouTube look up on how to use the bloody thing or we wouldnt have bought it. But what i'm not sure what you guys are thinking about how this combats gold sellers / farmers. Is it coz due to the fact that u sell these at such a high price you thought gold sellers would buy these then attempt to sell the gold to make a profit? i've done the math and it works out that say u spend the £5 to get a bond then sell it for 15M that's equivalent to being .57c Per mil AUD which really the person that was selling it would be stupid. BUT in theory i could buy gear go bossing make my money back for the gear i bought + bond then sell the gold if i made profit therefor this doesnt stop goldselling

25-Sep-2013 23:05:11

Forums

An Important Message