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Ghosttalon
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First of all, if you payed any attention to the video, or read the news post, you would find they didn't say anything about this being an effort to stop RWT.

Secondly, you just agreed that RWT is going to happen regardless. Would you rather see that money go to the people who utilize their minds and energy to allow you to play it, or the lowlife parasites that flood the game with automated money machines and constant intrusive private chat spam? ...okay.

You can't respect a company for keeping hard working minds employed despite all of the efforts of persistant thieves and an ungrateful community to undermine and belittle their efforts? ...I guess that's cool, too.



Point 1. You're right. They merely said this was a way to stop illegal (non-Jagex) RWT. Which is arguable, and the argument fails once one starts to think about it.

Point 2. They rewarded a lowlife parasite and persistent thief by giving him a job at Jagex. And this is what we get. Rather than cheaters actually being punished. Or aren't you aware of Mod Jacmob's former criminal activities?

25-Sep-2013 22:49:25

JackScape
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So from what I'm understanding, Jagex hopes that the introduction of these bonds will put a pressure on gold farmers to reduce their prices (to be competitive with bonds) to the point where profit on their part is not worth the time invested, thereby killing the trade.

I can see the merit in this.

At the same time, however, the introduction of these bonds is the final nail in the coffin to Jagex's old moral standards; It is, in fact, a form of selling gold. It may not be introducing new gold into the economy (thank God for that), but they are selling a tradable item that only enters the game through real-world purchase. Such an item is bound to carry a high price tag in terms of in-game GP, and thus Jagex is selling the opportunity for easy gold.

I can't be happy about this. It's a compromise to the game's integrity and, in my opinion, causes just as much harm (if not more) than what the gold farmers cause.

This is another case of removing free trade; different in nature, but equally detrimental to the health of the game. And as was the case with limiting trade, the negative implications of real-world purchase of in-game advantages will largely discredit whatever positive effects come of it.

This is speculation on my part, of course. Only time will tell for sure.

25-Sep-2013 22:50:35

Catherine
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You guys make me sick. This will do nothing to get rid of bots. All it will do is push them off to OSRS. If anything it will make it worse since they can make more of a profit off of OSRS as well. The game did go pay to win. I love how your against gold farming but then you do it IRL. Either your ignorant in thinking this will stop bots or clever as hell in fooling about half your playerbase into buy gold. Either way I'll be gone for good even if you remove the micro transactions this and EOC. Good luck competing with the next gen consoles and games.


How else is jagex going to come up with a solution? Why don't you put yourself in their shoes? You own a game which several hundred thousands of people pay membership for and their are many more playing the free version. Third parties are botting to obtain gold to sell for their own gains. This mass amount of gold causes inflation, ruining the game's economy. What can you do? Banning/wiping buyers means members are lost - jagex loses out. Banning the gold farmers doesn't really do much, they'll just make new accs and start over. Become the supplier, and that takes away business for the gold farmers and also prevents the game economy from being less ruined, more members due to f2p being able to get membership and people don't need to spend money on sof/sgs.
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25-Sep-2013 22:50:35

Welovecorp

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THANK YOU JAGEX From 13 years of allowing people to use your game to pay their real life bills and debts. Your generosity has been a blessing to millions of grateful fans!

Thank you for the bonds and the membership gifts I am tearing up right now!

25-Sep-2013 22:52:14

Brad 76

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You guys make me sick. This will do nothing to get rid of bots. All it will do is push them off to OSRS. If anything it will make it worse since they can make more of a profit off of OSRS as well. The game did go pay to win. I love how your against gold farming but then you do it IRL. Either your ignorant in thinking this will stop bots or clever as hell in fooling about half your playerbase into buy gold. Either way I'll be gone for good even if you remove the micro transactions this and EOC. Good luck competing with the next gen consoles and games.


How else is jagex going to come up with a solution? Why don't you put yourself in their shoes? You own a game which several hundred thousands of people pay membership for and their are many more playing the free version. Third parties are botting to obtain gold to sell for their own gains. This mass amount of gold causes inflation, ruining the game's economy. What can you do? Banning/wiping buyers means members are lost - jagex loses out. Banning the gold farmers doesn't really do much, they'll just make new accs and start over. Become the supplier, and that takes away business for the gold farmers and also prevents the game economy from being less ruined, more members due to f2p being able to get membership and people don't need to spend money on sof/sgs.


YOU GUYS ARE MISSING THE WHOLE POINT.....they are not a supplier....they are selling the gold that is in OUR BANKS. They are not injecting any NEW gold as has been stated over and over by our robot mod thats replying thats because they are selling the gold that is in OUR BANKS.

25-Sep-2013 22:53:29

Grey Hiker
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Grey Hiker

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My only fear though is that those that run the gold farming sites may crash the price of bonds in game and then lower their prices, essentially making themselves again the market leaders.

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What? How could a RWTer "crash the price of bonds in game"? Sure a RWTer could offer to buy bonds for very few gp, but a very low offer = no trades = no effect on price.

Frankly, I don't think that the ultimate ratio of gold prices (via bonds) versus gold prices (via RWTing) makes much difference. In theory, some gold sellers could probably survive even if they gave gold away for free (they make enough money from credit card fraud and the benefits to them of malware). (Of course giving away gold for free makes it obvious that there's some catch).

Before Bonds, I could (sort of) understand why some people would deal with RWTers - it was the ONLY way to get RS gold. Now that there's another way, the sole source benefit no longer exists, and the risks are just as great as before.

25-Sep-2013 22:54:03

MrsGuinevere
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Not sure!!!! this will back fire on you all is my guess. I doubt bots or whatever u all call them will stay away. If ur not cracking down on bot websites all over the internet and sue them and get them removed and keep removed from the internet they will find a way to return. have u gone into 1 of them and read the forums of bot websites?

I honestly doubt this was the way to go. how many have legit accounts with tons of bot acc in their name. How u gonna know if or if not they buying their bot accounts with bonds? I stand by my believes remove the bot sites of the internet 1 by 1 and keep them off and sue the owners and all bots on bot sites. I am sure u get enough money from us to do that.

25-Sep-2013 22:54:51

Booty Salad

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Gold farmer sites sell Jagex gold.

Bonds = Jagex selling our gold we have earned in game.

The mod that has been responding is correct no "new" gp is entering the game....that is because they are selling the gold that WE have.


Incorrect. Everything in game is property of Jagex. You confirmed a user agreement about that.

Correct: Bonds = Jagex selling their own gold


ROFL Of course its their ultimately....it's their game. I was showing what they are doing not trying to make a point as to ultimate ownership of the property...

Wondering how you would feel about Jagex selling the stuff in your bank, thats...what they are doing.... does that not make sense to anyone but me?

Of course it's all thiers....they just have never made money off of what WE had before today.


It's pixels that you acquired on a video game, not the possessions in my house. Nothing is missing from my bank, they're selling gold... I have gold... That's cool. I just used what I made in one night at Vorago to pay for 10 months worth of membership.

Do you understand what that means? Not only do I still have jagex's pixels in jagex's bank, but I just saved $60 of real..... actual..... currency.

"ROFL"
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25-Sep-2013 22:55:11

Brad 76

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Player A buys a bond for $5

Player A sells the bond on the GE for 10 million gp.

Player B buys the bond on the GE for 10 million gp.

So what has happened???.....
Jagex has charged player A for 10 million of Player B gp.

This is way worse than them selling gold, that is what they do on the sof,
this is a giant leap forward....now they are selling the gold in our banks.....

25-Sep-2013 22:56:59

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