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nilsea
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nilsea

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and another thing about that

If you say 40 to 50 % of the players are gold farming, then that said so called wealth they have that they can use to buy the bonds was ill gotten, and because I am not a billionaire evidently you say I have not worked hard.

Well, your right I haven't worked hard, since it is a game and only clicking, but I have spent time, questing and skilling and have little gp, and irl I have little cash.

Some time ago, I could go skilling or bossing and make that money, but the bossing due to recent changes it out of the question, so now I can just go buy about what sixty bucks worth and be set on that armour that was unreachable before?

25-Sep-2013 21:52:55

Azrael Etrnl

Azrael Etrnl

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This is a terrible idea. It will ruin the economy and make it like WOW. People that have a lot of IRL money will now be able to have infinite cash legally, and players who don't have that much money (ie students like me) will lose because the extra money in-game will jack up prices. This is a terrible idea :@

25-Sep-2013 21:53:17

Dadizar
Oct Member 2005

Dadizar

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Myself, while I generally see this as a good idea, I confess to being confused as to how this combats gold farming. It seems to me that by implementing an in-game way to purchase membership with gold, you've actually created another incentive to gold farm. The addition of bonds to the game is only part of the solution. Jagex has invested, and will continue to invest, time and technology in to tackling gold farming. This has already caused the price of gold being sold by goldfarmers to rise.

At the same time gold farmers must now compete with the players themselves so whilst it is becoming more difficult for gold farmers to operate they must also try to reduce their costs. This is what will kill gold farming.

Please explain to me why enforcing the rules against buying GP from RWIT sites would not provide a better solution. Ok, give amnesty to the disgusting 40% of the play base you know cheated, but please confirm to the honest, loyal 60% of your player base that this will not be allowed to continue now that bonds have been released.

Enforcing the rules against RWIT would be a good compliment to bonds and make us honest players feel that you care as much about us as you do the cheaters who damage the game and go unpunished.
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25-Sep-2013 21:54:32

climbyowindo

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If you understand even the most basic of principles regarding stock manipulation, you'd see once the price of these bonds starts to decrease the gold farmers with their stock pile of money will buy out every last bond they can....

Gold farmer now has say 10,000 bonds he bought for 5m, manipulates the market and puts his 10,000 bonds on the exchange for 10m, he now controls the market price and essentially is doubling his money from doing nothing.

WELL DONE JAGEX.

25-Sep-2013 21:54:54

Joe4577
Mar Member 2013

Joe4577

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:O
so the solution to gold farming from
3rd party websites
is selling on the
first party website
got it.


Though making soloman coins and membership buy able in game is nice
this is basically just
Jagex
selling gold
instead of
3rd party sites.


I've never bought gold from third party sites or used bots and I'm not gonna start buying gold because now its "legitimate" the rules i agreed to had something against real world trading and I'm not going to use bots when
Jagex
puts out "legitimate" versions of those either.



"We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape."


The fact you removed that from your own rule is evidence enough.

No matter what excuses you use this is
RWT
, the excuse that this is not
RWT
because it's not a
3rd party site
is pathetic. get a better excuse, oh wait there is NONE !

25-Sep-2013 21:55:06

nostawuk
Mar Member 2021

nostawuk

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I fail to see how this will effect gold farming.

Farm Gold - buy rare - exchange for bond - advertise bond for sale tax paid at lower price than jagex offer = exchange bond for rl cash.

Jagex, I'm sorry to disappoint you this is a game, the bots are not individual people the individuals behind the farming will just increase bot numbers until an equilibrium is reached with botting spreading to other areas.

What I see is another way of fleecing players and adding further possibilities for the scammers.

Anyone want to guess how long till we have bond beggars at ge and other population hotspots? Will "Dancing for Bonds" be the new begging cry?

Oh, and as for free trade, forget it, Jagex now have a tool to manipulate the G.E. and turn G.E. Trading into hard cash for themselves.

The day I need to buy bonds from Jagex to play this game is the day I quit.

25-Sep-2013 21:56:10

Mod Redfox

Mod Redfox

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Myself, while I generally see this as a good idea, I confess to being confused as to how this combats gold farming. It seems to me that by implementing an in-game way to purchase membership with gold, you've actually created another incentive to gold farm. The addition of bonds to the game is only part of the solution. Jagex has invested, and will continue to invest, time and technology in to tackling gold farming. This has already caused the price of gold being sold by goldfarmers to rise.

At the same time gold farmers must now compete with the players themselves so whilst it is becoming more difficult for gold farmers to operate they must also try to reduce their costs. This is what will kill gold farming.

Please explain to me why enforcing the rules against buying GP from RWIT sites would not provide a better solution. Ok, give amnesty to the disgusting 40% of the play base you know cheated, but please confirm to the honest, loyal 60% of your player base that this will not be allowed to continue now that bonds have been released.

Enforcing the rules against RWIT would be a good compliment to bonds and make us honest players feel that you care as much about us as you do the cheaters who damage the game and go unpunished.
Our rules on real world trading have not changed. The current rules state that game items must only be exchanged for other items or services within the game. Bonds are an in-game item in this respect and work the same way as any other item on the Grand Exchange.

25-Sep-2013 21:56:22

Brad 76

Brad 76

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This is very simple to understand.

Gold farmer bots farm the game for resources and sell them on the ge to get gp to sell to customers.

Jagex comes up with an idea,
How can we make more profit?, idea comes from the back of the room, "how bout we sell the gold that the players have earned in game".

Selling gold that is already currently in the game = bond

This is way worse than just selling gold outright like the sof does, this takes it one giant leap forward, now jagex is actually selling gold that is already in the game. In other words we pay to play the game and now Jagex can profit off what we earn playing the game.....

25-Sep-2013 21:58:13

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