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ShaneGoesArd
Nov Member 2011

ShaneGoesArd

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Love the update, was skeptical at first, but through reading everything about it, listening to the stream and going in game to check them out for myself I can see that this is an important update for the future of Runescape.

My only fear though is that those that run the gold farming sites may crash the price of bonds in game and then lower their prices, essentially making themselves again the market leaders.

The only way I can see to preventing this is freezing the price of bonds in game at a fair price, say 10m.

I understand that this isn't an attempt to sell GP but that is what it will become for many players, and why not? If you really want to beat the gold farmers you have to play them at their own game.

With that in mind I think it is important to stress the safety of buying from Jagex as opposed to buying from those sites. With Jagex your transactions are secure. No chance of getting ripped off etc. I know people that have bought from rwt sites, paid up and never received their gp, or had their credit card details used by the sites for their own personal purchases.

This is a massive step towards ensuring the safety of Jagex's customers.

25-Sep-2013 21:43:46 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 21:44:35 by ShaneGoesArd

nilsea
Mar Member 2021

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Sure, if you have money irl you can buy bonds if you want to, but it's very much about rewarding the players that have worked hard for their in game wealth, by allowing them to exchange it for bonds & trade them for benefits such as free membership be that long term p2p or f2p players.



I see it more as a slap in the face to all the players who have never broken your rules and still stuck with you through good updates and even the horrible updates, this being one of them.

25-Sep-2013 21:44:07

Dracae
Oct Member 2005

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Mod Redfox : you did not answer evil crown3 's question/comment with yours.

So I will restate it: if the exchange rate of gold for real life money offered by JAgex is worst then the one by goldfarmers.. how will this stop them having customers?
Jagex is not selling gold for money and do not intend to do so.

The cost of bonds purchased in-game through the Grand Exchange or through player-to-player trades is determined by players depending on what they perceive the value of the bond to be for them - whether that be for an item or simply given away to a friend.

Sorry.. not trying to be a buthole.. but that is not an answer..
If I am not totally dence, I see an oportunity to turn real life money in to runescape cash using your bond system. If I am misreading this and there is not , then there is no way this system will stop goldfarmers by taking away their custumers.. which MMG claimed it would do..

So... that makes 2 questions: Will bonds be usable to, ina roundabout way.. exchange real money for rs gp?
And: if this is the case, what will stop goldfarmers form making players a better offer?

25-Sep-2013 21:47:37

Torenso

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Some how I doubt the price for a bond is going to end up in the millions of GPs. Besides it's not like it's anything new. People are always going to buy gold. Better buying it from JAGEX and have the players decide how much bonds are worth than buying it from somewhere in China, Africa, or other shady country. I do feel a little betrayed by JAGEX pulling this move but I plan on supporting it till something overly stupid happens.

25-Sep-2013 21:48:54

Morbid Urge

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I'm still a little confused how this works and how will help? With that said I can't really comment on it one way or another, except by saying - hope it works and if it does "Great Job" ! If not, back to the drawing board and good try.

Keeping my fingers crossed...

25-Sep-2013 21:48:59

Lowerniel

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Reverse this update within the next 3 days or you can say goodbye to my membership, best case scenario I keep paying you filthy money-hungry devils and play old school Runescape, my outrage at this update outweighs my outrage at sof, Solomon's and Eoc PUT TOGETHER.


~Lowerniel, leader of Cult Of Pvm.

25-Sep-2013 21:49:26

Mod Redfox

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Myself, while I generally see this as a good idea, I confess to being confused as to how this combats gold farming. It seems to me that by implementing an in-game way to purchase membership with gold, you've actually created another incentive to gold farm. The addition of bonds to the game is only part of the solution. Jagex has invested, and will continue to invest, time and technology in to tackling gold farming. This has already caused the price of gold being sold by goldfarmers to rise.

At the same time gold farmers must now compete with the players themselves so whilst it is becoming more difficult for gold farmers to operate they must also try to reduce their costs. This is what will kill gold farming.

25-Sep-2013 21:49:30

Dracae
Oct Member 2005

Dracae

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Don't get me wrong, even though I would have rather had JAgex punish the goldbuyers... and even though I don't like we can now buy rs gold with rl money legally... I still want this to succeed in eradicating goldfarmers.

25-Sep-2013 21:50:07

Araxxor

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Mod Redfox : you did not answer evil crown3 's question/comment with yours.

So I will restate it: if the exchange rate of gold for real life money offered by JAgex is worst then the one by goldfarmers.. how will this stop them having customers?
Jagex is not selling gold for money and do not intend to do so.

The cost of bonds purchased in-game through the Grand Exchange or through player-to-player trades is determined by players depending on what they perceive the value of the bond to be for them - whether that be for an item or simply given away to a friend.

But then Jagex are still selling a valuable item that players can sell for gold.

25-Sep-2013 21:50:30 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 21:51:39 by Araxxor

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