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Aubie

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I am more surprised there is greater outrage over the fact that 40% of MEMBERS ARE PAYING FOR GP!!!!!

I never thought the percent was so large. No wonder how people got so much money. I feel cheated. They didn't banned them because Jagex couldn't afford to lose half of its paying members!!!!


How many hours does it take me to get 10Mil? 10 or more hours right? I work 5 hours for min wage = $25us after taxes. (Go mow a lawn for more) I can trade that in for how much? Think about it.
They are lying.............. -.-
Its called
problem reaction solution

25-Sep-2013 21:25:16

Icarian Fall
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Icarian Fall

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I am more surprised there is greater outrage over the fact that 40% of MEMBERS ARE PAYING FOR GP!!!!!

I never thought the percent was so large. No wonder how people got so much money. I feel cheated. They didn't banned them because Jagex couldn't afford to lose half of its paying members!!!!


How many hours does it take me to get 10Mil? 10 or more hours right? I work 5 hours for min wage = $25us after taxes. (Go mow a lawn for more) I can trade that in for how much? Think about it.
They are lying.............. -.-

Exactly. If they knew the exact numbers more would be punished.

25-Sep-2013 21:25:34

Dracae
Oct Member 2005

Dracae

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Ps.. I do not believe the 40% thing at all.. at max 20%.. but they had to boost the number, because we would have accepted and demanded them banning those 20% .. but 40 is so big we should understand they did not.

25-Sep-2013 21:26:53

SoftMints

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Maybe I can clarify two questions others are having and had at first.

Question: Will this affect my grandfather rate?
Answer: “No. Redeeming your bond for membership will simply add the extra membership credit to your account, and leave any recurring membership agreement active. Your next payment will be deferred, and you will only pay for additional membership when you have less than 3 days credit remaining.”
The key here is leave current agreement active.

Question: This is just like GF because it adds GP to the game.
Answer: No new GP will be added to the game. The GP was already there. All this does is transfers it to someone else. You cannot make RW money by playing RS. Gold farmers currently do this.

Question: Do people with RW money have an advantage?
Answer: Yes. However, according to Jagex they already had this.
Only difference now it will help the game out.
Nothing is perfect so get over it.

That point you make. How does it help the game out? It helps the game makers out, that's for sure. But that doesn't necessarily mean a better game for players.

25-Sep-2013 21:27:49

smoggysalmon

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Pay to win? Jagex I'm disappointed. Many people I have spoken to in game agree that this update just messes with people who have spent many an hour attempting to earn their gold and now people can buy it legitimately, I would not be surprised to see many more players quit like me, as I believe this is the final straw in a load of updates which, I believe, have ruined this once respectable game. Well I guess I shall return to my Xbox then.

25-Sep-2013 21:28:55

AcesNEights
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Folks, I'm just gonna restate it here. Bonds DO NOT , I repeat, DO NOT add gold into the game . You can buy them for real money, but the bonds do not inject gold into the game. They are redeemed for out of game things like membership, sof spins, and runecoins. At no time do these bonds inject gold into the RS economy . It's a gold sink . It's a sure fire thing that billions of gold have already been removed from the game via exchanging them for bonds. I've checked W2, and there are people selling THOUSANDS of bonds. That's a LOT of gold gone from the game. Good work, Jagex. I do hope that people will stop panicking and quitting rs before being fully informed.

In understanding this from the get go, here is my question:

Don't people buy gold for in-game items such as rares, armour, etc?

If you can only get runecoins, membership, or spins from bonds, won't people still buy gold to get in-game items?

25-Sep-2013 21:29:00

Undying One

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The only other problem I have with it is that it came completely out of nowhere... I would like to have some notice before hand. I see how this could act negatively (with the large amount of opposition to the update already) but I think it is necessary. Just my two cents.

25-Sep-2013 21:29:13

1PerfectLove
Jul Member 2015

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This is completely unethical. The whole point of why real world trading was illegal was because it presented a way for players to gain an unfair advantage by buying their way to success with real world currency. Although gold farmers will not be able to make real world money as easily, they will still be able to make gold by essentially converting the bonds into gold earned during the 14 day membership period they give. This presents a very easy money to earn gold that can be exploited to the point of illegally selling bonds, bought with gold, for real world money. (or claiming to while cleaning your real world bank)

The major issue that I find, however, is that by attempting to stop gold farmers from making real world money by selling gold, you (Jagex) are doing that very same thing! I know the money comes from other players and not from a genie, but many of those players are going to be the ones that easily make billions, making it very easy to get large sums of gold by buying these bonds that you sell.

I know that Runescape isn't the most profitable game out there and that you have had to boost sales with special offers like new SoF items. Selling bonds will likely be the majority of your sales in the months to come as they will be high in demand and a greater price per membership period. The greater income from selling bonds will easily outweigh the loss from veterans no longer playing. But I urge you to judge your actions based on what would make Runescape an enjoyable game to play, not what would make the best income, long term or short term.

I don't want Runescape to become just like another Facebook game where there is a wide margin between the successful/paying players and the low level/free players. Those games don't last. Satisfaction gained from success in game is largely determined by how easy it comes. Allowing a way to buy it lowers this to the point that some may reconsider if its worth it to actually earn it.

25-Sep-2013 21:29:56

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