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Stephi-kins

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You can now BUY ADVANTAGE big time in this game now.

Bonds is all about jagex wanting to be the one selling you this advantage.

The eithics of buying advantage, has been SOLD OUT.

BONDS are another way this company is CORUPTING RUNESCAPE.

All this B.S. about helping friends is a marketing cover to sell out the game

Maybe next is buying "J-Bots" to gather xp for you. But be assured theres gonna be
alot more next's, cuz " ETHICS" is a dirty word now.

SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME

26-Sep-2013 14:00:26

Mr Ridiklous

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@ SouLPrisoner

You think I don't understand business? My family owns a business, I am minoring in BA.

We would never accuse our customers of breaking rules or laws just to increase our profits. It is called integrity and if you lose it, you lose customers, plain and simple.

Just because someone else is doing it does not make it right. This company used to have integrity and it is lost on greed.

Greed is not better than integrity ever. Your customers will show you respect when you show them respect and offer a quality product and not a copy cat product.

26-Sep-2013 14:00:47

Rok Solid

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This is a very big step to take, however, it has been well explained and both the game and the players can only benefit from it.

The main complaint will be that people can now 'officially buy wealth'. But this has happened unofficially everyday for many years, so in fact nothing has changed with this update - except that Runescape will benefit from it's sale.

If people are intent on buying RS gold then let's make it benefit the game.

Good update, thoughtfully delivered.

26-Sep-2013 14:03:24

Proto57

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Now that Jagex is into RWT, I suspect that this is just the first step in a two-step process:

I agree with the prediction that the gold farmers will undercut the price, and bond sales will suffer, and people will simply pay for membership, in game, with gold bought from other RWTers (BTW, I've never bought one GP from any of those filthy cheaters, and never would). So If the gold farmers undercut Jagex, step two might be to eliminate GP entirely, somehow. I'm not sure how, but I'll bet they have something cooking. Perhaps, they will make it so that all GP must go through Jagex, and will not be directly tradable for items on the GP? Perhaps all GP will be eliminated, and trade only will be allowed? Such as, you mine runite, and trade it for items, directly... or trade it for bonds, bought from Jagex? This would force players to only own Jagex bonds, and not be able to save GP money in game... and since gold farmers will not be able to sell bonds or items, Jagex will control everything, and profit in RW money, from everything in game. This must be their plan, which they are keeping from us.

Something is fishy. I don't think this is the end of this, because the way it is explained, I don't think it can work. I think Jagex has something up its game ruining, money grubbing, two-faced schwarmy video lying, 28,000 playing membership and falling, sleeves.

I do know one thing for certain: The 19 million GP item I just bought... two or three days ago... probably just went "****!". I'll bet anything it is worth half that, today.

26-Sep-2013 14:04:32

Brad 76

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The bonds are a good step at the sellers in the rule breaking RWIT transaction.

What I and the other 60% of the loyal rule abiding players would like to see from Jagex is a pledge that the company will start enforcing the rules against the buyer side of the rule breaking transaction.

Jagex has stated that they know the number and hence the accounts that are cheating and since the return of free trade have ignore it with a wink-wink nod-nod.

That is insulting to honest players. We have knowingly been placed at a disadvantage. I would like to know that we will not continue to be slapped in the face by the cheaters being permitted in game advantage over us.
Jagex's rules on Real World Trading have not changed including the rules stating that game items must only be exchanged for other items, or services, within the game and anyone found to be breaking these rules will be dealt with in the same way they have always been.

So with reading your response as long as Player A when they Purchase gold from Player B on a Gold farming site exchanges some type of item when the gold is transferred then they arent breaking the rules. Is this how you are coming up with the 40% are buying Gold? Are they simply going around the rule by simply putting any junk item in the trade thereby exchanging gold for an item and still abiding by the rules? Do you with all your sophisticated systems not know who is trading large amounts of gp daily for junk item. Instead of selling in game advantage yourself how bout amending your rules to make rwt definition not so specific?

ONE OF THE 60% THAT HAVE NEVER BOUGHT ANY GP, SPINS, COINS, BONDS AND WONT Brad 76

26-Sep-2013 14:05:13

Morcegocego

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The final nail in the coffin... Just when I was about to start playing again.

RS3 is officially Pay2Win now. Buy anythingyou want with real world money. Gold, xp, items. Whatever.

So sad.

Thanks for killing the game Jagex. I won't be renewing my members. The introduction of bonds has not suddenly made Runescape "pay to win". Bonds cannot be traded for experience - either in terms of your in-game XP or your knowledge of the game. You will also only be able to trade for items that players have already acquired are willing - and able - to trade. Bonds give another option for trading between players.

Hmm...last time I checked you could get XP from SOF. But Jmods are infallible, therefore I must be mistaken.

26-Sep-2013 14:06:03

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Bobbykev1990

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Hi everyone,

Thought i would drop by and add my opinion on the matter.

Well first of all i would like to say this is quite a positive step. First of all this will help battle gold farmers and the bots.

Also let's get this straight, Runescape is not directly selling gold or adding any more gold into the community. They are selling you an item that is worth gold but it also still has a real world value, you can use it for Memebership or change it into spins or runecoins or give it away, or just sell it for coins.

Runescape will not be putting any more money into the economy, we will be buying the bonds off each other thus the money is just going from one character to another instead of people buying coins of gold farmers.

Yes this is a way for people to get coin with real money, but also it will be a way for the rich in game people to swap there coins for free membership.

Getting money in Runescape is pretty easy as it is anyway, and regardless of how much money you have it still takes a long time to get a 99, I dont think any in game money is going to speed up, Woodcutting, Fishing, Runecraft, Attack, Defence, Strength, Range, Magic, mining etc .... enough to cause any significant damage to the game. Let's face it you can't buy a 99 in every skill, you also cannot complete every quest with money, doesn't matter how much you have. If people want to spend all there hard earned cash on Trova then let them.

I would also like to add that i do not believe that 50% of the community buy gold. And if this is true, then i don't think this update is going to have an effect the game in anyway at all.

This is just my opinion, nobody is saying I'm right if you do not agree that is fine please do not hate on me for saying what i think about this update.

26-Sep-2013 14:09:35

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Nubeel

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@ SouLPrisoner

You think I don't understand business? My family owns a business, I am minoring in BA.

We would never accuse our customers of breaking rules or laws just to increase our profits. It is called integrity and if you lose it, you lose customers, plain and simple.

Just because someone else is doing it does not make it right. This company used to have integrity and it is lost on greed.

Greed is not better than integrity ever. Your customers will show you respect when you show them respect and offer a quality product and not a copy cat product*

I agree. 100%

26-Sep-2013 14:15:06 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2013 14:15:59 by Nubeel

Mod Redfox

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The bonds are a good step at the sellers in the rule breaking RWIT transaction.

What I and the other 60% of the loyal rule abiding players would like to see from Jagex is a pledge that the company will start enforcing the rules against the buyer side of the rule breaking transaction.

Jagex has stated that they know the number and hence the accounts that are cheating and since the return of free trade have ignore it with a wink-wink nod-nod.

That is insulting to honest players. We have knowingly been placed at a disadvantage. I would like to know that we will not continue to be slapped in the face by the cheaters being permitted in game advantage over us.
Jagex's rules on Real World Trading have not changed including the rules stating that game items must only be exchanged for other items, or services, within the game and anyone found to be breaking these rules will be dealt with in the same way they have always been.

So with reading your response as long as Player A when they Purchase gold from Player B on a Gold farming site exchanges some type of item when the gold is transferred then they arent breaking the rules. Is this how you are coming up with the 40% are buying Gold? Are they simply going around the rule by simply putting any junk item in the trade thereby exchanging gold for an item and still abiding by the rules? Do you with all your sophisticated systems not know who is trading large amounts of gp daily for junk item. Instead of selling in game advantage yourself how bout amending your rules to make rwt definition not so specific?

ONE OF THE 60% THAT HAVE NEVER BOUGHT ANY GP, SPINS, COINS, BONDS AND WONT Brad 76
Hi Brad 76,

That is incorrect - Player A would still be breaking the rules as they are still paying the gold farmer for the item (or in this case GP). As they are not only exchanging the gold for item within the game but are also paying the other player for it with real currency this would still be against the rules.

26-Sep-2013 14:15:36

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Lord Marshal

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" Now that players can trade Bonds with each other in exchange for any in-game resources, my business is completely screwed! "

I do not see how this update fights gold farmers, really? All Jagex did here is offer a

cheaper

way to buy your in-game items with real world money. In other words: Jagex is breaking their own game rules.

The Rules of Runescape currently say the following about RWT: " Game items must only be exchanged for other items/services within the game. " How is this no Real World Trading, then? Basically, you buy an in-game item with real world money to get an in-game item.

26-Sep-2013 14:16:12 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2013 14:16:34 by Lord Marshal

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