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Nr
Dec Member 2023

Nr

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I'm kinda sad to see the game officially go pay2win now. We'll see how it goes, I guess.

RuneScape is never going to be pay-to-win.

Having good items and gear but not knowing how to use them most effectively is still going to leave the player in that situation at a disadvantage to players who have developed their experience over time (both in terms of in game XP and knowledge of the game).


Doesn't take a genius to figure out how to use an item.

Dragon pickaxe = 15.3m = 2 bonds = $10

15.3m gathered through training = 74k coal / 10.33k Raw Shark / 21.71k Yew Logs which takes a very long time through the basic training skills.

And for gear or weapons it really doesn't matter how experienced someone really is, if you leave out the process of gathering money and replace it with 5 minutes of buying bonds..

25-Sep-2013 18:18:30

Free Rp Alt
Dec Member 2012

Free Rp Alt

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this isnt to bad of an idea, put dont you think players will jack up the prices wayyyyyyyyyy to high? the GE already says 15m and im sure with something like this a new group will rise and take advantage of this making prices sky rocket
exactly what i was talling a few players in ge who think it wont some how some way some ass holes well figure out a way to still flip these items for huge profit thus massivly jacking up the prices but overall i like this update and let the jagex/rs3 haters ***** all they want there just mad cause they just spend 80 bucks on a years worth of membership and now this came out lol


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How does the tradeable/untradeable aspects of Bonds work?

Players who buy their Bond from the website will be able to trade their Bond immediately.
If you buy the Bond from the Grand Exchange or receive it through a trade with another player, you’ll have to pay a GP fee to convert it to be tradable again – equalling 10% of the current Grand Exchange price. This 're-trade tax' is to reduce excessive merchanting
and to act as a gold sink. You will be able to convert your bond back to its tradeable state through the Bonds interface, and it is free to redeem the Bond for membership, RuneCoin


l2r
hey dumb ass they sell for 7.3 mill atm that only = to 8.8 mill and they can turn around and sell it for 15 mill since you obviously cant do math ill do it for you 8.8 mill - 15 mill = 6.2 mill profit per bond do you really think people in w2 are selling for under ge price?


Noob kid, how long have you been playing rs? 2 weeks? Has it never come to your attention that when something is NEW, prices fluctuate like CRAZY, and they need time to stabilise?
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25-Sep-2013 18:19:02

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I have one question: Why is this going to stop gold farmers?
is it becouse we as players can now buy gp/items LEGAL trough jagex?

if not i want to know then.
Thanks D Domino1.

Purchasing bonds from Jagex (or trading for them through the Grand Exchange or in a trade with another player) is safe and secure. You do not have the same risk of having your credit card details stolen as you would if you were purchasing from another site.

Goldfarmers can only lower their prices so far before it becomes too expensive for them to continue to operate in the same manner. At the same time as they are being forced to lower their prices the expenses for the gold farmers are being increased by the anti-goldfarming and anti-botting measures that we continue to invest time and effort in to.

25-Sep-2013 18:19:04

Southeaster
Nov Member 2014

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finally someone with a ******* brain instead of the normal re res with there "i hate jagex" t shirt and hate combo that normally run around on this pathetic forums im using this post as forum fodder maybe itll HOPEFULLY educate some of you uneducated idiots out there tho i doubt it since youve been raging since 2007 lol

Moron.
jagex hating idiot probably didnt even read past the word bond before you started your stupid rage fest huh? typical

You deserve to be removed from the forums for trolling and flamebaiting.
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25-Sep-2013 18:20:07

Flashaway
May Member 2006

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I still support this but I think we need to know this first.

Lets take party hats since it was stopped and became discontinued it became to a point where there are hardly any left in the game. Or cut of the water supply and slowly watch the reservoirs become dry.

My point being is there gold bank supply so big and will take months to shrink or are they still getting supplies from somewhere else?

25-Sep-2013 18:20:21 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 18:20:44 by Flashaway

Nines

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This is the best thing to ever happen to Runescape tbh. It's far better than Jagex flat out selling gold, it's far better than trade limits, etc, it's better than the evil SoF (which with this hopefully someday we can be free of).

This essentially turns the black market into a white market and gives the power to the players rather than a centralized bank, I.E. a hypothetical Jagex gold store or shady gold farmers.

Thank you Jagex, and doubly so for the gold sink tax to prevent merchanting.

To anyone who doesn't like this, I suggest you research EVE Online's economy, and also admonish your friends for buying so much gold. 40-50% of players? WOW.
EVE Online already does this and works brilliantly . EVE has one of the most vibrant, player driven economies in the MMO space.

Thank you.

25-Sep-2013 18:22:34

Luicas

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So, has anyone else realised this could very easily make bots worse?

Gold Farmer company uses their bots to make cash. They use cash to buy bonds. They then sell the bonds on their websites to other players, allowing players to buy membership for less than a regular membership fee.


But the bond was originally bought from Jagex, so why should they care, hmm?

25-Sep-2013 18:22:35

Tyronator
Jun Member 2013

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People were asking my last comment how the gold would be removed.
I'll tell you how. Once traded in game, bonds become untradeable. Let's say person A buys a bond. And Person B wants to buy a bond from person A with let's say... 10 million gold. Once Person B buys the bond from Person A, they cannot resell that bond for a profit. They have to redeem that bond for membership, certain items, sof spins, and runecoins. This means Person B has spent 10 million gold for an untradeable item. Person A can then do whatever he would like with that gold. Let's say he buys a bond from Person C for 11 million gold. The end result is the same. With fluctuating prices, this results in an endless cycle of buying bonds with gold, and selling bonds (that you bought with irl money) for gold in which to buy more bonds (to be redeemed). It's a never ending cycle of spending gold. This removes that gold from circulation, effectively trapping it in a paradox of sorts. It might be hard to wrap your head around, but that's what paradoxes do. Hope that helped.

25-Sep-2013 18:22:44 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 18:23:26 by Tyronator

Dadizar
Oct Member 2005

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I have one question: Why is this going to stop gold farmers?
is it becouse we as players can now buy gp/items LEGAL trough jagex?

if not i want to know then.
Thanks D Domino1.

Purchasing bonds from Jagex (or trading for them through the Grand Exchange or in a trade with another player) is safe and secure. You do not have the same risk of having your credit card details stolen as you would if you were purchasing from another site.

Goldfarmers can only lower their prices so far before it becomes too expensive for them to continue to operate in the same manner. At the same time as they are being forced to lower their prices the expenses for the gold farmers are being increased by the anti-goldfarming and anti-botting measures that we continue to invest time and effort in to.


Hopeful this also means you will start banning the rule breakers that continue to buy GP from goldfarmers since you have told us you can accurately detect them.

It would be nice, if for once, you started to look out for the rule abiding players and stop coddling the cheaters. Looking the other way when all of this nonsense started when the wildy was brought back is proving itself to be a huge mistake. Please start enforcing rules along with issuing bonds.
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25-Sep-2013 18:23:07 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2013 18:24:45 by Dadizar

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