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28-Sep-2013 03:34:59

Friends Iist

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You missed one Jagex...

Hi, I'm a goldfarmer and now my gold is even more desirable than before. You can now buy gold from my site and then use the gold you bought to buy bonds and then redeem them for membership! If you do this you can buy membership for roughly half the price and keep all of your hard earned GP. Also Jagex is so desperate for cash that as long as you keep your money on a mule account or in items they will not ban you but simply reset your GP that's not there! That's assuming if they even do anything!

28-Sep-2013 04:16:28 - Last edited on 28-Sep-2013 04:17:24 by Friends Iist

D Saphire

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I've played this game for a while and seen alot of changes. Watched the video a few times, studied the info on it and looked thru the forum. I can see why some would be angry, disappointed or approve it. All though I'm not sure how this will stop the issue. It might help in some way.

28-Sep-2013 04:51:05

Ctuchik

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The cop has to speed to catch other speeders.

Which they avoid, for safety issues to themselves and the general public, by using speed cameras.
There are always better alternatives .....
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28-Sep-2013 05:40:35

punkrock9111

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Jagex just needs to come out and sell GP directly to the player, rather than skating around it with all this SOF, bond, crap. We know what you're doing; other games like WOW do it, and, guess what? they're doing fine ... at least have the common curtsey to admit what you're doing ... I think that's, really, what we all have a problem with. It's all so sneaky.

28-Sep-2013 06:12:46

Dhakamis
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EVE Online works this way as well. The game developers, CCP, sell an in-game item through their account management page called "PLEX" or simple a "30 Day P ilot L icense Ex tension. It can be redeemed in-game for an additional 30 days of game-time or traded to other players on the free market. Similar to converting to Runecoins, it can also be converted into a non-tradeable currency, called "Aurum", which is bound to your account and can only be used to purchase special cosmetic outfits.

The biggest difference is that EVE Online membership already costs about double that of Runescape membership (~$15/month), and PLEX sold through account management is always priced higher than that; the effect is that PLEX is a much larger real-world monetary burden. Normally, the rate is about ~$17.50/PLEX, although the developers put sales on different packages in order to tweak the amount of in-game currency being drawn out of the game. Even with a special offer for a larger package, prices on PLEX might be $149.99 for 10 PLEX, instead of the regular $174.95! For this reason, the rate of purchase of "Bonds" in Runescape will probably be much higher. The in-game value for PLEX is determined by the free market, just as Bonds are, and usually are worth about 300 mil isk ("isk" is the currency in EVE Online). This would probably be comparable to the buying power of somewhere between 5-15 mil gp in Runescape (although it's a really tough comparison).

So how does this affect the community and game ? The high price of PLEX makes players purchase them with real money less often, giving players a chance to pad their in-game wallet only once in a while (unlike Bonds). While it legitimizes RWT in a way, many players can now fund multiple accounts through gameplay; the developers more than make up for lost membership fees through PLEX sales. While inflation is decreased, the pay-to-win structure is unfair and hurts the player community.

28-Sep-2013 07:13:43

Nihilus7

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I'm surprised to hear EvE Online offers a similar feature to Bonds. Then again I never followed that game cause it always seemed boring.

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Jagex just needs to come out and sell GP directly to the player, rather than skating around it with all this SOF, bond, crap. We know what you're doing...


SOF and most of the Solomon Store junk are perfectly fine. Most of the junk is just that, junk. They don't provide any kind of benefit to the player aside from being more aesthetically pleasing. The items offered that do provide a benefit to the core game design (ie Auras) can be purchased after being a member for X period of time, thus no additional money is necessary unless a player wishes to purchase one sooner.

Bonds on the other hand are a terrible idea. If it were too hard to come up with some other designs to 'gift' membership time, spins or rune coins for dollars, or to offer all these options to players for GP I think Jagex should hire someone new because its very easy to achieve either of these choices.

Removing gold sellers from a game is much harder than introducing some garbage like Bonds. Short of undercutting gold sellers until gold has no value you'll never really remove them. From a game like this though it would take even more than remove gold entirely to kill those companies.

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...other games like WOW do it...


World of Warcraft doesn't offer this kind of crap. They offer micro-transaction junk which can be traded between players, but these items have no effect on the core game desgn (ie. they don't make your character better). The items are purely cosmetic.

Diablo 3 allowed players to sell gold between other players, but they have since removed the AH entirely because Blizzard believe the design on whole "underminded" the core game design.

Blizzard and similar companies offer other ways to 'gift' membership time and other micro-transaction garbage tho.

28-Sep-2013 07:51:51

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