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26-Sep-2013 08:03:14

Tiger Blade

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After reading comments, I now understand the purpose of Bonds. This sounds very much like gold buying but approved by Jagex and no official price vs equality. 5 American dollars can buy me a bond and I sale it for 1mil on one day and the next day 5 American dollars buys me a bond but the value of the bond dropped to 500k. That sounds risky for some, like my self, that doesn't have that kind of money to spend. So I can either buy a bond for $5 and get MAYBE 1mil or 500k OR go to a gold buying website and buy 1mil for $5 and that price will normally remain the same or slightly change. To me it sounds like gold buying and real world trading which is a violation of the rules. (for the record: I do not buy gold from gold farmer sites or people. This was merely an example to get my point across.)

I'm iffy about this. I don't think this will resolve the issue. Gold farmers is a business and like all businesses they will do WHAT EVER it takes to keep from being taken down. I really hope this works Jagex, don't get me wrong, I want this to work. I want my hard many hours or crafting and selling ores to pay off on the GE when I go to sale it because it's more valued. I don't think it will but I will keep my hopes up. Hmm... this will truly be something to see. I yearn for a day, as do most players, to no longer see bots stealing my chances of becoming rich through hard labor. I would have a plan "B" though Jagex, just in case. Also make an example of those who buy gold from gold farmers. Make it public too like with the bot punishments. That could end gold farming. Back to mining! Best wishes Jagex!

~Andrew Spear

26-Sep-2013 08:05:24

Lord Zaryte
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Lord Zaryte

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To try to answer immediate concerns.
First, This is not about the membership, this is about jagex introducing something tradeable that can be bought with real money but also avoid injecting more cash into the economy.
Second, have full we'll knows that this is RWT. The fact of the matter is gold buyers will buy gold, trust me the rich have always been able to have their gp. The simple, horrible truth: RWT WILL NEVER STOP. Jagex is attempting to create a monopoly on the RWT gold business. And attempt to do this without adding more cash.
Third: according to THE LAW of supply and demand, 3rd party gold sellers will be the same price as jagex's bonds. If it is more economically viable to buy gold via third party then the price of bonds will drop, flipping it to where bonds are more practically. People will always go for the best deal. People will not sell something at a price they can't sell it at. This is where jagex's edge of legitimacy and ease come into play.
Fourth: for confirmation, Jagex is doing this for money. But not in the way that is most apperant. Although there is no denying that the company truly cares about the game and it's community, but at the root is that every single employees needs to either put food on the table and for the bigger people, to expand the game. The best source of revenue for this company is memberships not because it makes more the. The other features but because it is steady and reliable. Something they can expect and base expectations on. I.E. If you were told to buy groceries and you knew that your paycheck would be $600, you know a set amount you can do although if it was probably going to be between $400-*1000 you might be a little more hesitant even though you could make more. If they can increase this average from 600 to 800 they would be a lot more comfortable running a company off that in stead of the ebbs and flows of the other in app purchase.
Last of all, give this some time. Please. See how this turns out first

26-Sep-2013 08:29:38

Mod Crow

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This is messed up Jagex. And no... this isn't going to stop goldfarming.


This will, in the long term, absolutely kill goldfarming. Bonds are 100% safe, cause no damage to the economy and are completely controlled by the players. Gold selling sites are a hive of fraud, account theft and their business methods result in a damaged economy with resources taken away from the players. Over time players will very quickly see that Bonds are a better solution and with prices expected to become fully competitive gold farmers will be forced to abandon their businesses when they are no longer profitable.

RuneScape is not the first game to use such a system as Bonds and other games have had incredible success in eliminating cheat sites with these methods.

26-Sep-2013 08:31:33

[#MU7LX4J6D]

[#MU7LX4J6D]

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I've noticed no mod here has addressed one of the biggest issues, problem being, this isn't a real gp-sink, thus it won't help the economy. Bonds will be traded for gp, yes, but between players, meaning most of the gold will remain in-game, and don't give me that 10% fee crap because it will be minimal, I dare to say its effect will be minimal in the long run, these price fluctiations we've seen so far are product of mere panic and not deflation through gp-sinks.

If Jagex actually wanted an effective money sink, they would've made bonds so that players would buy them from NPCs with gp, BUT Jagex being greedy as they are, they just want another opportunity to cash in, hence that solution (which would've worked wonders for the economy) would've been out of the question for Jagex, since from a few months has done nothing but come up with new ways to squeeze real life money out of players.

So I'm eager to find out what'll be the next "big idea/update" to get players to spend extra cash on the game.

If Jagex weren't so greedy, this could've been a very practical and effective solution, as a real money-sink with considerable impact would've been made just by getting NPCs to sell the bonds for gp. What does this tell me? That Jagex cares little about game improvement/problem solving, but focuses solely on profit.

26-Sep-2013 08:31:42 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2013 08:32:56 by [#MU7LX4J6D]

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