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"Nostalgia goggles" says the one that names their character "Zelda64rules", now that is hilarious. Seems you have your "Nostalgia goggles" on in full force so stop berating others for having theirs on and go play your beloved Zelda 64. Leave these players to try to get their game back to a state that they enjoyed most.

Where does all this hate come from? Why must people berate and rage upon those that just want to play a game they actually enjoyed? is asking for a pre-EoC server going to hurt those that claim to love EoC? is it going to detract from your enjoyment of the game if Jagex makes one or more versions of these pre-EoC servers people are begging for or are you afraid that they might be far more popular and populated than the EoC servers and encourage Jagex to just scrap your beloved EoC?

There are some aspects that I don't mind about the EoC but by far more things that I don't like about it. I like the option to add a drop "ability" to the ability bar (though I am not likely to ever use that option as I tend to bank resources for working later rather than drop them and have to buy them later), it gives those wanting to level gathering skills faster a faster way to do so.

In EoC they took away the specials from the weapons that had them, weapons that in many cases players worked hard doing a quest to obtain or that players spent a large sum of gp in game to purchase (I too have weapons on one of my characters that I paid a good amount of gp to obtain, a dp++ which is now merely a dragon dagger without permanent super poison attribute as well as the Excalibur sword and the mace to be used in "Another slice of H.A.M." quest). I can't see any logical reason Jagex had for stripping these specials that people loved and thereby devaluing something people worked hard to get or paid good gp to get only to have Jagex nerf the game and make them worthless and their price plummet so we no longer have the value we worked hard to obtain.

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Another thing about EoC many players dislike/hate is the ability bar itself and how it interferes with normal chatting in game (you must either click into the chat field or hit enter to open the chat option which can be very bothersome), many are very unhappy about the un-necessary inconvenience.

Yet another drawback is our spellbook, I myself am very displeased with the nerf to my spell book as it over complicates something that used to be so simple to use.

Combat level, I liked my previous LOWER combat level, I was not happy that with so many of my combat stats so low that I should be so high a combat level. One of my characters has 55 defense and 77 mage (trained mostly using non-combat related spells) making my pre-EoC level 72 into a post EoC level 134. I prided myself on the fact that my lowly level 72 character had over 200+ quest points and those were all obtained BEFORE my character hit the half way point in combat level (level 63 being half of the then max level of 126 BEFORE summoning was introduced bumping max level to 138). This player combat level nerf that changed the calculations for combat level devalued what was a very hard accomplishment. I worked very hard to kill such high level monsters and tough bosses at such a low combat level.

Also, the new way to calculate combat levels do little to show overall killing ability. If someone levels ALL combat skills equally they can "hide" their enhanced killing ability behind a much lower combat level than that of a player that may lets say prefer range or mage combat and not put much effort into their melee skills. take for instances someone that levels ALL combat skills to 85, that would make their combat level 172 and another that likes range best, levels his range and defense to 99 while hardly touching his other combat skills making his combat level 200. Chances are that level 200 would get owned by that level 172. How is that appropriate representation of killing power?

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In my honest opinion, the old formulae for calculating combat level was a much better representation of their ability to kill others.

In my opinion, the EoC was NOT NEEDED to keep this game going and competitive in the mmorpg genre, NOT WANTED by the majority of this game's players and was NOT introduced into the game properly and is still far too flawed to be in the game yet.

Perhaps if it were better constructed/implemented and not so flawed, the players may not have had near the adverse reaction to it as they have. As it stands now, the only true option Jagex has is to remove it entirely or provide seperate non-EoC servers in the hopes that they can regain their player base otherwise it looks as though they may not even be able to stay afloat themselves.

03-Feb-2013 20:49:38

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hi why cant we click on food and eat it i am handicap and it makes better for me i know change is good but its harder to battle for me same for puting stuff in bank it use to be easy now its hard doors and latters too could you think about the handicap pepple on these small chages please i love playing rs just remember the handicap when making changes thank you

03-Feb-2013 21:13:37

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Justplayinto - Personally I wouldn't bother with Zelda64rules. Some people can't be convinced Runescape is in need of serious attention.

If I were you I would save your breath until you actually get a chance to talk to actual Jagex employees who supposedly think they're improving the game. Now you're probably not going to get into contact with them regardless, but all this hate flinging around stems from the fact that Jagex lied to us deliberately for their own personal gain.

All these forums are anymore is a polarized camp of haters and fanboys. You either love what the game has evolved into or you hate it. But I for one do not tolerate being lied to, and a lot of this is because Jagex does not want to fully cooperate with our complaints.

Seems all Mark Gerhard can do is think up pretty words to calm down the masses. Should we really be all that naive? No we shouldn't. Being a CEO who lies on occasion, he gets no respect from me.

I must also say that this community Runescape has got going on really needs to look itself in the mirror and consider whether or not their actions are appropriate. The community doesn't get respect from me either, because we've turned into haters and fanboys. Those with an open mind are in the minority.

Probably safe to say I've turned into a Jagex hater. All that time spent seems to have been for naught. If their management was organized and more careful, I would think I shouldn't be having to see these problems escalate to these kinds of proportions.

Where do we go from here is the question. Out of everything you said Justplayinto, I very much think that this game is run by tyrants who hold no in-depth knowledge.

We can both agree it's more than likely to be true.

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