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ki11ingspr3e

ki11ingspr3e

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Hi guys i love runescape but there are two things that bugs me.
The first one is when your holding a vex it just says rs on it unless u have a shield on your back.
The other is gambling.
-The big gambling clans sell the cash irl.
-flower games involved trusting the host.
-There are rumors that they are even botting hosts now.

those are the two things that really need to know. :D

28-Jan-2013 21:40:19

Acoworker

Acoworker

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EOC wasn't a Shock and I looked forwards to it...

EOC didn't just change combat though, it changed the basis of runescape and both it's uniqueness from other games as well as the method and mind set it is played from.

EOC is really trashy in my and most players (of the 220+k players prior to update... not the current 30k (after removing bot count)).

For some it was more fun, but most of these players would like other games more than Runescape anyways.

A good friend of mine likes EOC, but I know he would also like other games that use this play style even more... However he doesn't want to risk being too attached to a game.. so he gets a bit of both this way. That is about the only legitimate opinion for EOC, that I've heard. Once removing the ignorance of most players, towards other FFA MMORPGs there isn't much left to stand for with EOC.

However this same friend liked and played Pre-EOC Runescape (the real Runescape) for many more years than EOC.. He would still play it as well.. so from a business perspective that isn't a reason not to can the rubbish.

Runescape made a lot more money on old runescape, lol ALOT more than sucking dry some people's pockets by their RWT with micro transaction..

Oh yeah that brings me back to those things... Making your largest player base's experiences of epic adventures, long nights of skilling and persevering for years... worthless by a few spins and RWTing scams is incredibly stupid... just stop and create Non-EOC servers... it isn't possible just will cost a bit of money (less than what you've already lost).

Ps. There are several tactics to remove boths faster as well as aggressively sorting and routing them legally... I by no means am satisfied by your promise against them years ago.

I can write a basic "if" scenario that is more effective than your current bot banning procedure.

Even giving player mods a set of priority reporting tools would be more effective than this rubbish, or more player based ability to remove.

28-Jan-2013 21:42:13

Acoworker

Acoworker

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@ AceWeaver

That isn't even logical man. The game doesn't get "worse" because people say it is something it isn't.

Look at the player count Ace, it was over 4x that before EOC, and you're conclusion it is better? lol, That is funny.

Anyways, most of the player base LEFT AFTER EOC had been out for a week or more... this shows a significant amount of the players had the time to "try" it out... like you suggest, and they didnt' like it and are still continuing to leave based on failure to correct the mistake as well as the idiotic diversions and distractions.

If you like EOC, I suggest you try other MMORGPs that aren't browser based... they are often FFA, years more experience, more complex and deeper EOC style combat systems and have been developing these things for years... let alone graphic content being alot better (as they have a lot better perimeters).

Runescape was different, it's strongest points were what is missing in this cheap candy version of a deluded WoW game.

28-Jan-2013 21:48:18

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"Ohh god please leave the EOC alone, its awesome, just give it a try Runescape has gotten worse because of people saying change it back."


"@Ace Weaver: Couldn't have said it better myself"



What you two people seem to be missing out on is that many of us that DON'T like EoC HAVE given it a go and we still don't like it. Not everybody is going to have the same impressions or opinions as everybody else.

I for one HAVE given it a go and I find it to be too flawed, too much button mashing, still being in beta testing period even while being the live game and it is causing the economy on many weapons/armors to crash/spike and causing those that are trying to be competitive in combat to lose great fortunes due to having to buy new weapons/armors with each "rebalancing" Jagex performs.

Perhaps if Jagex had done things right and introduced each part they got sorted slowly over time or left the whole thing in beta until they got the whole thing sorted many of us that dislike/hate the EoC might dislike/hate it a bit less but that isn't the case is it?

Why should the whole of the Rune$cape community be forced to be Jagex's beta testers? shouldn't we have the choice to beta test for Jagex or not? Should paying members be forced to beta test for Jagex? Haven't they payed for the right to play the game and not have to be subjected to this beta? They are losing much gp to these market fluctuations that are brought on by all these combat rebalances that should have been ironed out during beta testing. Is that fair to them?

Now I am not presuming to say that even if Jagex had done a better job in creating the EoC or in Jagex's presentation of the EoC to the game that everybody would be on board with it but perhaps it wouldn't have been met with so much discontent.

In my opinion, I think Jagex should have first started out by asking us if we even wanted a massive change to the combat system BEFORE any work was done to create it, if we wanted it, then start working on it.

28-Jan-2013 21:58:22

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How about you actually listen to the players instead of talking crap all the time

You screwed the game up for all of us older players, so many people quit this game and there are hardly any new players coming. I mean lets face it who the hell would want to join this game now anyway? I had so many friends try it now for their first time and log out after 5 mins because it was so boring.

Bring back some old servers for some of us who wish to play without all the new changes that clearly many people dislike.

28-Jan-2013 22:02:51

Acoworker

Acoworker

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lol They did in a sort of' manner JustPlayInto.

They gave us a "feedback" survey that only had positive options ^^ so they looked at the survey response and it was SOOO good they decided to continue pushing *coughs*

I started the survey but it was so biased I closed it mid-way. lol

Appropriate procedures would have most likely lead to old RS still being active, or a dual server sort of thing.

They said the second was too costly, but it would have been a lot cheaper than the money they've lost so far. That should and could have been sorted out though by using their brains instead of their pockets to set this up.

Micro transactions and abusing people (even kid's) gambling behaviors to make up for their net loss from the stupid move, is just a horrible way of bandaiding their pockets... detestful in my opinion.

I'm really looking forwards to some real feedback: Feedback that doesn't RELY on BASIC social engineering.

28-Jan-2013 22:08:05

Doofmiester

Doofmiester

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Here's what you don't understand @Ace.. for many years we have all been working on our accounts and they changed the "Entire" game not just game improvements but a Pandemic overhaul of the game, It would have been more prudent to release RS EOC
on different servers like they did with the Cididel, and let it run for 6 months first to see if people liked it, second to see how many people went on the servers... and stayed there.
Report the WBM'S - Do not try to pretend to be a Forum moderator only posts with a green border on them are those of a Forum Moderator and itll be very obvious if you do!"It's against the forum rules. Simple as that.

28-Jan-2013 22:29:12 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2013 22:35:29 by Doofmiester

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