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Hey there Devans Blade,
I'm really sorry to hear you're not going to be with us for the next leg in RuneScape's epic journey. Naturally, if you've made up your mind to leave the lands of Gielnor, I wish you all the best - but hopefully I can correct a few misconceptions you've expressed so that you'll see there's every reason to stay!
First up, lets cut through the intrigue and conspiracy surrounding the direction of the game. As MMG himself has directly said during one of the many live stream sessions that we've held over the last few months: our investors have absolutely ZERO editorial say in the production of our game.
Just as with any other privately held venture, investors are there for financial backing only and DO NOT interfere with the running of the game, or the direction the content takes. Jagex are responsible for making RuneScape and we're not in the habit of doing things that will deliberately land the many hundreds of us who work here out of a job. Think about it for a second - we're people like you and we want the game we all love to be a success. Taking steps we think will be bad for the game would be totally illogical.
Regarding having EoC mechanics on separate servers, its not only technically unworkable, but also really undesirable. Think about it. We'd have to produce two sets of content with every update - one that works with the old, basic non-dynamic combat system, and one that can take advantage of all the new mechanics. That would be a development nightmare and would absolutely cripple the game's development. You'd see next to no new content coming out in any given year and the basic combat worlds would have to forgo the latest awesome bosses or new minigames, on account of not having the underlying mechanics to support them. Within months, you'd see everyone migrating to where things are still alive and going forward - just as we saw with RuneScape 2 and RuneScape Classic.
Lastly, I'd like to challenge the idea that Jagex has disregarded feedback and ignored players. We've made countless changes based on player feedback, and some of the most major additions & tweaks were directly because of player suggestions. I suspect that "don't do EoC" is really what you're talking about, but it has to be said that this kind of sentiment is not really feedback. The Evolution of Combat was and is absolutely necessary in helping RuneScape to be the best it can be. Problems with the old combat system were abundant and pronounced. It may have been simpler and it may have been familiar, but it was also shallow and deeply broken.
The new system takes a little practice, but the gameplay rewards are worth the small investment. The idea that EoC might be "too complex" for someone to learn (which is something I've seen here and there) is difficult to justify when you consider it is entirely possible to replicate the click & go combat of old, just by starting a fight as you always have and then, within a few smaller hits to build up Adrenaline, letting the "Momentum" Ability off, giving you the same powerful hands-free hits you're used too. It's a tiny adjustment, really.
And you still have the option to hide the Action Bar when you're not fighting so you can chat without needing to hit "enter" first. There's really nothing that has changed other than giving everyone a massive amount of flexibility to fight how they want, and to look freaking awesome whilst doing it!
On a last note, I also just wanted to be clear that we don't censor feedback. Constructive feedback when posted in the right place and in a respectful tone will always be welcomed. If some one has posted something like "i hate eoc it is rubbish so don't do it", that, of course, will be hidden or removed. But that's nothing to do with the sentiment - it's because that kind of comment is non-constructive spam.
Anyway, apologies again for the long post, but I hope you can see we're still deeply passionate about RuneScape, we firmly believe EoC is the right thing for the game's longevity and we care a great deal about making sure no player is left behind in getting used to the new mechanics. It just takes a tiny amount of initial adjustment, and then you're away having far more fun than you ever thought possible. We really hope you decide to stick around. <3
All the best,
I'm really sorry to hear you're not going to be with us for the next leg in RuneScape's epic journey. Naturally, if you've made up your mind to leave the lands of Gielnor, I wish you all the best - but hopefully I can correct a few misconceptions you've expressed so that you'll see there's every reason to stay!
First up, lets cut through the intrigue and conspiracy surrounding the direction of the game. As MMG himself has directly said during one of the many live stream sessions that we've held over the last few months: our investors have absolutely ZERO editorial say in the production of our game.
Just as with any other privately held venture, investors are there for financial backing only and DO NOT interfere with the running of the game, or the direction the content takes. Jagex are responsible for making RuneScape and we're not in the habit of doing things that will deliberately land the many hundreds of us who work here out of a job. Think about it for a second - we're people like you and we want the game we all love to be a success. Taking steps we think will be bad for the game would be totally illogical.
Regarding having EoC mechanics on separate servers, its not only technically unworkable, but also really undesirable. Think about it. We'd have to produce two sets of content with every update - one that works with the old, basic non-dynamic combat system, and one that can take advantage of all the new mechanics. That would be a development nightmare and would absolutely cripple the game's development. You'd see next to no new content coming out in any given year and the basic combat worlds would have to forgo the latest awesome bosses or new minigames, on account of not having the underlying mechanics to support them. Within months, you'd see everyone migrating to where things are still alive and going forward - just as we saw with RuneScape 2 and RuneScape Classic.
Lastly, I'd like to challenge the idea that Jagex has disregarded feedback and ignored players. We've made countless changes based on player feedback, and some of the most major additions & tweaks were directly because of player suggestions. I suspect that "don't do EoC" is really what you're talking about, but it has to be said that this kind of sentiment is not really feedback. The Evolution of Combat was and is absolutely necessary in helping RuneScape to be the best it can be. Problems with the old combat system were abundant and pronounced. It may have been simpler and it may have been familiar, but it was also shallow and deeply broken.
The new system takes a little practice, but the gameplay rewards are worth the small investment. The idea that EoC might be "too complex" for someone to learn (which is something I've seen here and there) is difficult to justify when you consider it is entirely possible to replicate the click & go combat of old, just by starting a fight as you always have and then, within a few smaller hits to build up Adrenaline, letting the "Momentum" Ability off, giving you the same powerful hands-free hits you're used too. It's a tiny adjustment, really.
And you still have the option to hide the Action Bar when you're not fighting so you can chat without needing to hit "enter" first. There's really nothing that has changed other than giving everyone a massive amount of flexibility to fight how they want, and to look freaking awesome whilst doing it!
On a last note, I also just wanted to be clear that we don't censor feedback. Constructive feedback when posted in the right place and in a respectful tone will always be welcomed. If some one has posted something like "i hate eoc it is rubbish so don't do it", that, of course, will be hidden or removed. But that's nothing to do with the sentiment - it's because that kind of comment is non-constructive spam.
Anyway, apologies again for the long post, but I hope you can see we're still deeply passionate about RuneScape, we firmly believe EoC is the right thing for the game's longevity and we care a great deal about making sure no player is left behind in getting used to the new mechanics. It just takes a tiny amount of initial adjustment, and then you're away having far more fun than you ever thought possible. We really hope you decide to stick around. <3
All the best,
Mod Drebin
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21-Nov-2012 12:21:17 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2012 16:18:40 by Mod Drebin
looks good ;D
EDIT: Go Mod Drebin! thats exactly right! every page of this thread has positive feedback
those few posts that say " hate eoc hate eoc hate eoc" are being shouted down! all steam ahead for EoC
EDIT: Go Mod Drebin! thats exactly right! every page of this thread has positive feedback
those few posts that say " hate eoc hate eoc hate eoc" are being shouted down! all steam ahead for EoC
21-Nov-2012 12:38:13 - Last edited on 22-Nov-2012 07:57:55 by Yunollan
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Well cant try bossing in f2p. But i rememb that i soloed bandos only once or twice per trip but meybe now i could solo much more
Well cant try bossing in f2p. But i rememb that i soloed bandos only once or twice per trip but meybe now i could solo much more
21-Nov-2012 13:05:20 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2012 13:06:50 by Juggalog
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