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"A 2009 issue of Postbag from the Hedge contained a letter where Ali Dodger explained that the popularity of the name "Ali" rose after the mansion in Pollnivneach was left to an unknown person named "Ali", leading to citizens legally changing their names in order to try and claim the inheritance"

I didn't know about this - made me laugh - sounds like something from a Pink Panther script :P

This makes the whole wokery accusation of seeing racism where there is none reveal its true ridiculous, malevolent and mischievous intent.

09-Feb-2022 09:01:25 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2022 09:03:20 by ToP BaSS

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Tiikerihai said :
Do you get offended by how many people are named Mohammad (and various spellings of that name) as well?

Are you going to nag them to change their names too?

Or the Welsh village where there are multitudinous permutations of people called Dia (pronounced Die) Jones.
Favourite is the Undertaker known as Dia the Death or the local lothario known as Jones the Tom.

But we can't talk about that - it may be racist.

09-Feb-2022 15:14:11

Immortalized
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ToP BaSS said :
"A 2009 issue of Postbag from the Hedge contained a letter where Ali Dodger explained that the popularity of the name "Ali" rose after the mansion in Pollnivneach was left to an unknown person named "Ali", leading to citizens legally changing their names in order to try and claim the inheritance"

I didn't know about this - made me laugh - sounds like something from a Pink Panther script :P

This makes the whole wokery accusation of seeing racism where there is none reveal its true ridiculous, malevolent and mischievous intent. Please stay on topic, this thread is about Jagex not applying these principles consistently across their products not whether you think the offenses are actually racist or not. Buy Zemomarks / Chromatic Partyhats safely here

09-Feb-2022 19:08:37

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Mel 624 said :




The thing is, the change shouldnt have happened at all thus it not happening in osrs is a non-issue.

Jagex has every right to name thing w/e they want as they own the game.

Just because someone dislikes something isnt a reason why they should be forced to change one of their properties names.
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10-Feb-2022 03:12:45

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Please remember that players are permitted to post their opinions, provided that they are within the scope of the Code of Conduct . Secondly, although you may not agree with another's opinion, it does not give you licence to criticise another for posting it.

Let's get back on topic. As stated on the first page, Immortalized said :
However, I am put off by two very questionable things I have noticed since then:

1. There is still an NPC with the name Aligra Nite
2. This update was never applied to OSRS
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10-Feb-2022 06:51:25 - Last edited on 10-Feb-2022 06:56:37 by Ms Toxicity

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I agree with the OP that to be consistent, Jagex should consider making the same changes they made to RS3 to OSRS as well.

I also believe that it gives the impression that Jagex wasn't really serious when they said they made the change due to it seeming discriminatory. It seems they may have just done it to avoid a backlash and because it's considered good PR.

However, if they do actually believe it's discriminatory, then this very much gives the impression that they don't care much about discrimination!

But in my honest opinion, I couldn't really care less whether or not they make the change. But I support the OP in encouraging Jagex to take responsibility for the half-arsed job they've done on this.

If Jagex says it's discriminatory to name all people Ali, then not doing anything to correct that would/should be seen as discrimination. Whether or not the rest of us agree with Jagex that it is discrimination doesn't really matter; it's Jagex's game and Jagex who stated it's discriminatory.

Sorry if that was just a ramble.

10-Feb-2022 19:33:42

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Thanks, your comments are on point and not rambling at all. In my opinion these half-gestures are more offensive than doing nothing at all, because they seem to affirm that they truly don't care whereas before it could have been a simple misunderstanding. To acknowledge the issue then intentionally avoid it in one of your biggest products is telling to say the least. Buy Zemomarks / Chromatic Partyhats safely here

10-Feb-2022 19:49:13

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Draco Burnz said :
Mel 624 said :




The thing is, the change shouldnt have happened at all thus it not happening in osrs is a non-issue.

Jagex has every right to name thing w/e they want as they own the game.

Just because someone dislikes something isnt a reason why they should be forced to change one of their properties names.

Opinion isn't sufficient to justify whether or not a change should've been made. You need to provide your reasoning for why that's the case.

No one is claiming Jagex can't do that. However, that doesn't meant they can't be held accountable should they chose to name a character a slur or other offensive things. It also doesn't mean people can't say whatever they want about the choices they make, especially when venting in the rants forum so long as rules of conduct are followed.

As I said, this isn't about dislike and to reframe what's been said as that is reductive and dismissive. If Jagex changed the names due to a racism/representation issue then it should've been applied to all versions of the game, not just RS3. How to block a forum user

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12-Feb-2022 03:38:57

Draco Burnz
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Mel 624 said :


As I said, this isn't about dislike and to reframe what's been said as that is reductive and dismissive. If Jagex changed the names due to a racism/representation issue then it should've been applied to all versions of the game, not just RS3.

Ok and with this being said, if it wasnt due to this, then it doesnt need to be applied to osrs right?

So considering it wasnt applied to osrs, it just proves that the names changed wasnt due to racism.
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12-Feb-2022 13:17:39

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