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Jaekob Caed
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Mel 624 said :
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It was one mention of that and you ran with it. Like I told you, you saw me mention the pronoun thing as one of the issues I have with the game and ran with it. Pretty sad, if you ask me.

Tenebri said :
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Not just stupid, complete clownery. DEI is literally nothing but an excuse to crap on entire groups of people in the name of eQuAlItY. Having diverse characters isn't what bugs me, it bugs me when a game stops trying to be art and entertainment and turns itself into propaganda (which is precisely what DEI is for, by the way).

If you think Jagex gives one single crap about the virtue signaling, you're naive. These companies push ESG & DEI policies because it's the hip thing to do. It's easy money from the NPCs who can't see past the fact that these are corporations, corporations that'll do what it takes to make quick and easy money and the easiest way to do that is to pander toward whatever the current "thing" is. They aren't your friend, they aren't my friend.

Truth is, video games are supposed to be art and entertainment, not a political propaganda piece. I don't want to be preached at in my medieval fantasy MMORPG. I want to log in, ESCAPE the madness of the clown world for a little bit, and just have fun. But nope, let's keep pandering to DEI quotas to make a quick buck before society has moved on from the mental illness. ~
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19-Jan-2024 06:14:12

Jaekob Caed
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Aslon Dak said :
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You know, as much as I hate to say it, it might be my last too. I've also been playing for 20 years, though a little less on this character. Never in a million years did I imagine quitting this awesome game, but they have effectively forced my hand as of late. First off, because of them increasing the cost of membership due to iNfLaTiOn a couple years ago, it made it unfeasible for me to maintain membership with real-world money. I was able to dump some gold into getting Premier with bonds for a single year but now, I'm struggling to find the time (and the energy) to pour into making money to maintain membership to a game I'm enjoying less and less thanks to Jagex's complete and utter failure to take care of the game we, as a community, passionately funded for the past 23 years.

It sucks to say, because I still do love the game and I don't particularly want to lose my streak but what other choice do I have? I don't have the time to grind for the gold I need to buy bonds every year, I don't have the money in the real world to be shelling out $80+ every year on a video game I don't play enough to justify that sort of cost.

Long time coming, I guess, but it still sucks big time. ~
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19-Jan-2024 06:14:18

Mel 624
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The gist of your post is taking issue with Jagex's decisions with the game. The examples you gave to this were pronouns, necromancy and the forums closing. We have plenty of threads about what's happening to the forums and I don't disagree that it's a bad decision or that Jagex has made other poor decisions. I even gave examples of recent bad decisions Jagex made that you could've brought up instead. I also responded to what you said about necromancy, which you seem to be ignoring.

There's no need to act like I singled out some insignificant portion of your post when the problems with your pronoun example are very much relevant to what you're saying. It's not a good example of bad decisions Jagex made just because you can't stand the inclusion of people who're different from you. Your ranting about DEI in response to Tenebri also makes discussing this more relevant, since you're the one making it such a big issue. It's the main complaint you're presenting about Jagex, which is the topic of the thread.

LGBT characters existing does not make things propaganda or stop something from being art. Pretending to care about the moral integrity of the people doing the representation is just a tactic to suppress representation of marginalized groups. They're allowed to have escapism and fantasy they exist in too, same as anyone else. Especially when marginalized groups have a lot going on in their lives beyond what non marginalized groups have to deal with. How to block a forum user
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20-Jan-2024 02:39:37

Tenebri
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Jaekob Caed said :

Tenebri said :
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its the hip thing to do? when their employees are the ones they are representing?

i agree video game is an art and entertainment, that also includes people. and what makes people feel safe, that is going to include inclusion of everyone.
political propaganda? preached? how are you being preached at? just because you dont identify as lgbtq etc. doesnt mean it shouldnt exist in places such as art and entertainment, these are the exact places they should exist.

the pride events are fun, many people enjoy them and have fun with them. so yeah i agree it is a place to have fun. so lets keep them, if you dont like, dont partake.

do you honestly think adding a pride event (when we already have other holiday events) is propaganda?

how is it mental illness? please do elaborate this.
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the fact of the matter is, people that are part of lgbtq, many places its illegal with some places it being death penalty. acting like you saying you dont want it. is the 100% reason why pride event is so important. if you and others didnt act so hateful towards it then sure there wouldnt be a need. but because people do. that is the reason why its so important. and if you feel its being shoved down your throat. then honestly i dont care. just because you are sensitive to pronouns (which you use yourself), and rainbows. literally just shows how important it is, when you obviously dont want these people included in society. the same as where its death penalty.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-43822234

and here you are throwing a tantrum because jagex decided to add pronouns to a quest in a medievil 20 year old clicker game as if its the worse thing the world, claiming its propaganda? for what? inclusion? being a decent human being? accepting people who they are? is that so hard for you?.
because it does make people who are struggling with their identity feel more included and safer. you acting like this is not helping. its why i will always fight against the hate you want to shout.

and why do you hate? because you have been told to, form guess what propaganda...
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Crone924
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there is a solution to not liking a given representational event: don't participate!

There is so much here to do, a whole world with levels above and below and in other dimensions. If someone personally doesn't feel like playing a pride event, then don't.

It isn't like there's nothing else to do!

If one is a completionist, then I guess it could be said one is "forced" to do some things, however, I'm certain that not every bit of content in the game is equally favored by every player. If what is important is ticking the boxes, then it's just another box.

and that box that one person doesn't like as much may be someone's else's favorite one.

There has to be something for everybody.

The "play as you choose, chart your own course" is the best thing about this world, to me.

20-Jan-2024 18:37:53

Jaekob Caed
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Crone924 said :
there is a solution to not liking a given representational event: don't participate!

There is so much here to do, a whole world with levels above and below and in other dimensions. If someone personally doesn't feel like playing a pride event, then don't.

It isn't like there's nothing else to do!

If one is a completionist, then I guess it could be said one is "forced" to do some things, however, I'm certain that not every bit of content in the game is equally favored by every player. If what is important is ticking the boxes, then it's just another box.

and that box that one person doesn't like as much may be someone's else's favorite one.

There has to be something for everybody.

The "play as you choose, chart your own course" is the best thing about this world, to me.

That's fine and dandy when I actually have the options but Jagex is making poor decisions that affect every facet of this game. The two people above you are simply picking at one of my many complaints because I dared to say something contrary to the cult of wokeness, as if everything else I said went in one figurative ear and out the other. ~
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22-Jan-2024 03:37:19

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22-Jan-2024 20:45:06

Tomato 56789
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EVERYTHING else aside, here's my two-cents about pronouns in RS. Not necessary as we have the Makeover Mage. In real life if you identify as the opposite gender it's a long, tedious process to transition with considerable costs and risks - and trans regret is a whole monster on its own. Gielinor though - 5 seconds and 3k (wait - isn't it free now or is that a quest reward?) and you have your ideal body. Feeling about going back? 30 seconds and you are your original self!

Personally I don't care about LGBT stuff in the game given it's not a prerequisite for anything important. If the community wants their events power to them, I'm typically underground or teleporting around anyway.
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