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Mar

2017

Windsofnight

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I like the bit where Balance says they allowed links

I liked the bit where Matthe says what he meant is... even more

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Nothing like having a surrogate on hand to make sure that what we said is what we meant to say.

My bad, after reading that thread it reminded me of a hat I saw...

WHERE IS MY INGAME RSOF TITLE?!

13-Jan-2017 04:09:30

2_Tron

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Windsofnight said :
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14. RSOF Thread Spotlight: Game Titles: "the Forumer" by Vera, Qfc 373-374-983-65737674: Post 17.7
... I checked and checked, please don't post nonsense. There's no page 17 nor post 7. Get your facts straight and check it yourself before you post any of this.
Above all, it is quite annoying that you even refuse to respond to any opposing comment.

13-Jan-2017 09:31:28

Aug

2008

Team Skull

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Jack Flac said :

The fact is, we can't compare the two as apples and apples, as they both have different rules on whats allowed and what isn't. On the RSOF, one thread per topic is the general rule.

Small issue with that- Just look at RGU on any day post-update (or 07 gen for its equivalent), and you will, more often than not, see more than 1 thread on the same topic, saying more or less the same thing. Knowing the "one thread per topic" rule, all but 1 should be locked, but they're not. So, using a rule that isn't really enforced to begin with as evidence for a claim seems, to me, silly at best to argue. From that, one could extrapolate: IF a rule is hardly enforced to the point where it's a non-issue if it's broken, can it really be considered a rule, or is rather considered a guideline, which guidelines are mutually exclusive from rules and therefore carry different implications?

Buuuuuuut, that's going into forum politics, which is a different topic for a different day. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

13-Jan-2017 12:55:09 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2017 12:56:09 by Team Skull

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2008

Team Skull

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Windsofnight said :
Say hello to your friend Ex Silentio for me okay. I do realize that using the search feature may be problematic for some folks, so here you go.

And I know making basic comparisons is difficult for some people, so here ya go:

The RS Reddit doesn't have a sub board for those specific features (Meaning there is very little, if any, meta discussion for it to begin with to be had), and given how infrequent those posts seem to be (Based on the timestamps provided), it means they are outliers within that subreddit and can therefore be disregarded for analysis, which is something you learn in elementary statistics.

Two can play at that game

"Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

13-Jan-2017 13:04:37

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2008

Team Skull

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2_Tron said :

Above all, it is quite annoying that you even refuse to respond to any opposing comment.

That, my friend, is called Stacking the Deck. I personally find it annoying too, but what can ya do about it? It really just tells me that there's no argument left to be had, but I don't know- maybe they're trying to hold out? "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

13-Jan-2017 13:07:08

Mar

2017

Windsofnight

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(Lnkmiegel) 2_Tron said:

Quoting Windsofnight said: 14. RSOF Thread Spotlight: Game Titles: "the Forumer" by Vera, Qfc 373-374-983-65737674: Post 17.7

'I checked and checked, please don't post nonsense. There's no page 17 nor post 7. Get your facts straight and check it yourself before you post any of this. Above all, it is quite annoying that you even refuse to respond to any opposing comment.'

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Well, bless your heart, you do realize that you pulled the quote that you are calling nonsense from the INDEX ADDENDUM for this thread don't you?

In other words, since it is the Index Addendum for *this* thread, on post 17.7 *of this thread* you will find the mention of that RSOF Thread Spotlight. I hope this helps.

WHERE IS MY INGAME RSOF TITLE?!

13-Jan-2017 14:00:49

Feb

2022

Jack Flac

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Team Skull said :
Jack Flac said :

The fact is, we can't compare the two as apples and apples, as they both have different rules on whats allowed and what isn't. On the RSOF, one thread per topic is the general rule.

Small issue with that- Just look at RGU on any day post-update (or 07 gen for its equivalent), and you will, more often than not, see more than 1 thread on the same topic, saying more or less the same thing. Knowing the "one thread per topic" rule, all but 1 should be locked, but they're not. So, using a rule that isn't really enforced to begin with as evidence for a claim seems, to me, silly at best to argue. From that, one could extrapolate: IF a rule is hardly enforced to the point where it's a non-issue if it's broken, can it really be considered a rule, or is rather considered a guideline, which guidelines are mutually exclusive from rules and therefore carry different implications?

Buuuuuuut, that's going into forum politics, which is a different topic for a different day. As I said, general rule. A large part of what gets posted on reddit, if posted on the forums would get locked on the spot for being what it is, spam.

The point is, they are both different platforms, and they each have their own set of rules, and their own basis on how those rules are enforced, which means we can't attempt to compare them on a topic type to topic type basis. It just doesn't work. We can look at overall statistics for comparison, but thats all we can look at.

Now then, I am not saying that Winds is right in his evaluation, all I am saying is that the counter-argument for his evaluation you are presenting is not. Leader of The Enemy ||

The opposite of Justice is simply another Justice. What is Evil is subjective to each person.

YOU

are their evil

13-Jan-2017 16:08:37

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2008

Team Skull

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Jack Flac said :

The point is, they are both different platforms, and they each have their own set of rules, and their own basis on how those rules are enforced, which means we can't attempt to compare them on a topic type to topic type basis. It just doesn't work. We can look at overall statistics for comparison, but thats all we can look at.

Which as I said previously, using that logic we should compare RSOF to Dating Site forums, which what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Using raw numbers without context is at best misleading and intellectually dishonest at its worst.

You would HAVE to do topic type to topic type to get a more accurate result, but given that the meta discussions are more or less different from forum to forum, it'd be difficult, if not downright impossible, to compare and the outlier argument can be used to disarm any argument of "buh the topics r der even if it small! D:". Otherwise, it's a Red Herring and is a moot point.

In other words, Winds is in a Catch-22 by making an affirmation and was the point I tried to bring up multiple times now. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

13-Jan-2017 16:22:40 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2017 16:24:18 by Team Skull

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2008

Team Skull

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Jack Flac said :
As I said, general rule.

And as I said: Guideline. I mean, technically it's a rule because of Catch-All, but again, that's forum politics.

Fact of the matter is though: Using a measure that you KNOW is inaccurate and trying to assert it as cold, hard fact anyway is a textbook example of intellectual dishonesty, and even you yourself admit:

Jack Flac said :
We can look at overall statistics for comparison, but thats all we can look at.

Which would mean that you KNOW it's not a strong measure to use as it can easily be shrugged off for any multitude of reasons, and knowing this, why even bring it up for discussion? That's what I am trying to get at. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

13-Jan-2017 16:32:58

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2022

Jack Flac

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Oh I'm not trying to say his evaluation is right, as I don't even want to attempt to get into that mess. I'm just saying that your apple to apples counter-argument which you seem to be focusing on the most is an invalid argument.

In the end, there is no single view that is right, rather each view is both right and wrong at the same time. Each of the arguments you are both presenting have point in which they are right, and each have point in which they are wrong. Leader of The Enemy ||

The opposite of Justice is simply another Justice. What is Evil is subjective to each person.

YOU

are their evil

13-Jan-2017 16:49:28

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