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RSOF vs. Reddit 24 Hour Posting Comparison Continued From Page 9



16. Mod Stuo

RSOF MONTH OF NOVEMBER:

REDDIT: Last 24 Hours

01. Children of Mah Art Showcase & Q&A - ask your questions! (Live Tuesday at 5pm) by JagexJD - JagexStuo 2 points 9 hours ago
02. This concept art of a graphically updated banshee has been public for 3 years, was their graphical update scrapped? - JagexStuo 1 point 10 hours ago

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17. Mod Timbo

RSOF MONTH OF NOVEMBER:



REDDIT: Last 24 Hours

01. Zamorak's character development since the sixth age started has been incredibly well done - JagexTimbo 11 points 1 day ago
02. Zamorak's character development since the sixth age started has been incredibly well done - JagexTimbo 20 points 1 day ago
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23-Nov-2016 21:24:52 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 21:55:19 by Windsofnight

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18. Mod Vulkan

RSOF MONTH OF NOVEMBER:



REDDIT: Last 24 Hours

01. Question about Prepaid Cards. - JagexVulkan 1 point 21 hours ago
02. Rip Treasure hunter key - JagexVulkan 6 points 1 day ago

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19: Mod Wolf

RSOF MONTH OF NOVEMBER:



REDDIT: Last 24 Hours

01. Looking at suggestion posts in /r/runescape/new - Jagex_Wolf 3 points 5 hours ago
02. Looking at suggestion posts in /r/runescape/new - Jagex_Wolf 12 points 15 hours ago
03. Looking at suggestion posts in /r/runescape/new - Jagex_Wolf 26 points 15 hours ago
04. Looking at suggestion posts in /r/runescape/new - Jagex_Wolf 45 points 16 hours ago
05. Mod Lee on hlf about scavenging 3 - Jagex_Wolf 48 points 17 hours ago
06. This teaser has been in the game for almost 10 years - will it ever be used? - Jagex_Wolf 30 points 19 hours ago
07. Premier Club Pricing | 30% Off 12 Months - Jagex_Wolf 1 point 20 hours ago
08. Zaros doing in 20 seconds what took Saradomin 10 weeks to :^) - Jagex_Wolf 21 points 1 day ago
09. Zaros doing in 20 seconds what took Saradomin 10 weeks to :^) - Jagex_Wolf 105 points 1 day ago
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23-Nov-2016 21:25:00 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 21:50:57 by Windsofnight

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Commentary



Let's all sit around the campfire together & join in with the boys singing this ol' time favorite song



Where have all the Jmods gone, who use to love to post to the forums long time passing?
Where have all the Jmods gone, who use to love to post to the forums long time ago?
Where have all the Jmods gone?
Reddit got them, every one
Oh when will they ever learn, oh when will they ever learn?




Sing to the tune of:

"Where Have All the Flowers Gone?". The melody and the first three verses were written by Pete Seeger in 1955 and published in Sing Out! magazine. Recorded by "Peter, Paul And Mary" (1962).
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23-Nov-2016 21:25:06 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 21:56:03 by Windsofnight

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Windsofnight said :
... Where have all the Jmods gone, who use to love to post to the forums long time passing?
Where have all the Jmods gone, who use to love to post to the forums long time ago?
Where have all the Jmods gone?
...


Where have all the Jmods gone, who use to love to post to the forums long time passing?

JMods of long time passing have quit, were fired or have been relocated in The Office. Those JMods, who had a 'GloBal Awareness & Responsibility' were dismissed because Jagex got themselves a bunch of new American Investors who took it over.
It opened the possibility for USA-Supported things to get the overhand in Jagex's daily doings and the 'GloBal Awareness & Responsibility' have been thrown away with the garbage, money now is key. Money talks and JMods & Jagex do not anymore.

23-Nov-2016 22:05:35

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The one fansite barely alive we're all referring to is essentially nowadays a clan forum; with a couple outside cliques at best. However, the RS wiki usually updates information quicker and more efficiently than any fansite does in all fields -- which is why I believe they become so null and void. The RSOF isn't needed anymore; yet it'll probably forever stay due to it's current state of one-off posters complaining to Jagex in Item Discussion or General their account got banned for botting, or hacked, etc.. we've all seen it. For a company like Jagex and a game like this, having the RSOF makes them seem a little more professional, imo - despite how unprofessional some content and efforts towards it overall may seem.

Social Media is awful. Everyone is simply about ME ME ME, trying to grab attention however they can.. whether it's a poorly done tryhard Reddit meme in Microsoft Paint ( dank ), a Twitter account posting they gained 86 Fletching, 71 Firemaking, crap like that.

I get it, community involvement is a great thing in an MMO. But feeling self entitled to gain something for attendance or promotion within the society is doing it all wrong. I guess that's how the world works nowadays, though. Shame really.

- Ornery Onions -
Prioritizing inclusion, friendliness and offering a helping hand to those that need it.

24-Nov-2016 16:41:21

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ANOTHER MISSED OPPORTUNITY

Promoting Reddit vs. Promoting RSOF


JMOD TIDBIT



Time Line Date Stamp - (hours/days from creation of thread): 25 Nov 2016

Reddit - Looking for a clan with crafting plot in citadel. submitted 2 hours ago

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A: Mod Shauny [score hidden] an hour ago: Well this post just went out, take a look :) - https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/5ewnbo/clan_saturday_26_november/

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Commentary

When I saw the OP of this Reddit thread being directed to the Clan Saturday thread on Reddit rather than being directed to the RSOF clan forum sections on RSOF, I thought well maybe there has been a reduction of forum sections again & all the clan forums sections got removed. So I looked at the main RSOF menu, you know, just in case...

RSOF Main Menu:

Clan Central
For all help, feedback and discussion on clans for Runescape

Clan Home
Here you will find your clan’s discussion thread

Clan Warring
War, what is it good for? Clan Warring!

Recruitment – Looking for a clan
Post here to find a clan

Recruitment – Under 100 Combat
New to clans? Get started with our under 100 combat clans

Recruitment – 100 Combat and over
Battle-hardened veterans seeking new members over 100 combat

Recruitment - Skilling Clans
Clans that focus on Skilling or have a skilling level requirement

Recruitment - Social & Community Clans
Clans that want to socialise and have no entry requirements

Recruitment – Specialist, Questing & Minigames
Clans so specialist that they don't fit into any other forum!

Clan Cup 2016
The Forum for all things for this player ran Clan Cup!
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26-Nov-2016 19:15:35

Windsofnight
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@Flab, Hi, it is true that most fansites maintain clans & that the RS wiki usually updates information quickly so there is no disagreement there, however, each fansite does have unique aspects to their sites as well, not only for their users but for those that visit those fansites to.

I disagree that RSOF isn't needed anymore though. Some of the data on this thread suggests that the forums is not receiving its due diligence as it should be since it is the 'official' website.

One would think that a 'official' website would be the go to place for information on updates, products, services & community engagement. I am not sure that those type of consumer expectations would fall in the realm of self entitlement though.
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30-Nov-2016 20:20:54

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@Lnkmiegel, Hi, I, erm, am pretty sure that all the Jmods work in 'the office' or at least have cubical space in the office building...that aside, not really sure what the 'new' American investors part of your post is about since a Chinese company owns Jagex now, (they are not investors, they own Jagex, lock, stock & barrel).

It is also true that anyone can purchase stock in this company now, which would make those people who purchased stock, 'the investor'. What that means is that folks like you & me can purchase stock so it is not exclusive to just American investors.

I have yet to find any data that would suggest that 'GloBal Awareness & Responsibility' or lack thereof would be a root cause of the social media vs. RSOF Jmod 'talking' disparity. Nor have I found that the notion that just because a company wants to make money, (since that is usually the goal & why they are in business), would be a cause of this disparity either.

What my research has shown is that most companies use social media to drive the consumer to the official website rather than use or give the appearance that they are using social media in lieu of the official website though.

continued...
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30-Nov-2016 20:36:17

Windsofnight
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I disagree that Jmods do not 'talk' anymore, good gravy, they 'talk' a lot!

The data that was posted prior to the commentary (that ties to the commentary you commented on) tends to support the notion that there is a disparity in community engagement (Jmods 'talking') on the official website versus community engagement (Jmods 'talking') on social media platforms. It doesn't show that the Jmods are in a 'radio silence' mode, so to speak.

The cause & solution to this disparity may be as simple as reassessing & addressing how individuals utilize social media in the work place more than anything else. Research has shown that it is not standard practice for a company to allow social media to be utilized to drive their consumers away from the official website or even give the appearance that it is doing that. Tbh, I am a bit hard pressed to find an example of a company that uses social media to drive the consumer away from a companies official website rather than to it.

This is what appears to be off kilter, that there is the appearance that social media platforms are being used in lieu of the official website to do the 'talking'.
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30-Nov-2016 20:38:01

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JMOD TIDBIT


Reddit: Looks like functional forum changes could still take a while, unsuprisingly... submitted 1 day ago - 4 comments

OP:

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A: Mod Balance 5 points 1 day ago: There are more valuable things our web team need to work on before starting any major forum updates. The problem with having a 15 year old game is having the 15 year old systems which we have to either bolt onto or completely rebuild.

Even if you look at some of the most technically advanced forums in the world (and even ones which use the more "standard" forum software) - generally, they're not as popular as they used to be.

The internet is changing, and so are communities. Part of our community philosophy is to spend our time on platforms (like the forums, like Reddit, like Twitter) proportionally based on the size of the community using them. If people are naturally moving away from using forums then there is less reason to work on them.

We've done research which tracks the number of posts by JMods against the number of posts by players, and there's very little evidence to suggest the decrease in player activity is attributable for a reduced JMod presence. Frankly, it's a visibility issue (as with all forums), we could have JMods posting on suggestion and feedback threads twice as much but it'd still be less visible than a few replies to r/runescape's Hot section.

In all of our internal reports of player feedback and suggestions (the Community team produce at least 2 per week, which are sent to all RuneScape team members and managers) take into account feedback gathered from all platforms - the forums, Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, Twitch, YouTube, Discord (the list goes on). My point is, the forums haven't been forgotten, and we are still very interested in feedback from players who use them.


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[1] RSOF: So... forum changes, Kalaya?, Qfc 278-279-990-65853739, 3.7
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