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Corder
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Corder

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Having initially said I'm not in favor of this, I second what Spearmint30 already said. I may not be bothered by it but others are so I respect their decision to want to block others. As long as it's implemented in a way that it doesn't have any impact on the ones who get blocked I'm fine with it. Sure I can see the appeal in blocking people from accessing one's thread, but I think this will degrade user experience for some. Such power should remain with FMods only. Life is like a camera: Just focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives, and if things don't work out, take another shot !

05-Jul-2021 13:47:02

2_Tron

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Abby Taylor said :
@2_Tron

I'm not sure what you're talking about as it relates to a block feature?

Are you telling me to just accept being bothered and annoyed by bothersome annoying people? that's not very good advice.

I have plenty of empathy, But like any reasonable person I hate trolls and i hate being gaslighted by people.


You can have empathy while also keeping toxic people out of your life.
This is why restraining orders exist.
If you insist ... I'll take you into the future of your idea, the block feature is there. You will not see nor are able to read posts of any person you wanna block, yet other players not having used the block feature can see posts made by others you have blocked.
As soon as that blocked person posts other players in your thread respond and start discussions with that blocked person.
You are left out by your own block feature, left out of the ongoing discussion, not able to respond.

And now?

:D

05-Jul-2021 13:55:31

Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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2_Tron said :
Abby Taylor said :
@2_Tron

I'm not sure what you're talking about as it relates to a block feature?

Are you telling me to just accept being bothered and annoyed by bothersome annoying people? that's not very good advice.

I have plenty of empathy, But like any reasonable person I hate trolls and i hate being gaslighted by people.


You can have empathy while also keeping toxic people out of your life.
This is why restraining orders exist.
If you insist ... I'll take you into the future of your idea, the block feature is there. You will not see nor are able to read posts of any person you wanna block, yet other players not having used the block feature can see posts made by others you have blocked.
As soon as that blocked person posts other players in your thread respond and start discussions with that blocked person.
You are left out by your own block feature, left out of the ongoing discussion, not able to respond.

And now?

:D


Which is one of the reason I've suggested that people you block not be able to see your threads either.
You can't see them, they can't see you.

Yes I'm blocking them from me.
But i'm also blocking myself, from them.

that's fine, if they wanted to interact with me they would have behaved better.
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05-Jul-2021 14:20:10

2_Tron

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Corder said :
Having initially said I'm not in favor of this, I second what Spearmint30 already said. I may not be bothered by it but others are so I respect their decision to want to block others. As long as it's implemented in a way that it doesn't have any impact on the ones who get blocked I'm fine with it. Sure I can see the appeal in blocking people from accessing one's thread, but I think this will degrade user experience for some. Such power should remain with FMods only.
At the beginning/end of the day it is '
Jagex/JMods
' deciding who gets blocked/muted/banned/perm-banned and who doesn't based upon a well balanced way of decision making, rather than based upon being in a loop of disagreement.
Jagex/JMods wanna hear feedback of all walks of life whom take part in The RuneScape Community all playing RuneScape all being affected/effected by the decisions Jagex/JMods make.
This blocking feature will not live well because it tear The RuneScape Community apart once again on a different level. Social Engagement being fragmented once more.

FMods, in the past, have intervened in such cases which didn't go all to well.

:D

05-Jul-2021 14:21:52

2_Tron

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Abby Taylor said :
2_Tron said :
Abby Taylor said :
@2_Tron

I'm not sure what you're talking about as it relates to a block feature?

Are you telling me to just accept being bothered and annoyed by bothersome annoying people? that's not very good advice.

I have plenty of empathy, But like any reasonable person I hate trolls and i hate being gaslighted by people.


You can have empathy while also keeping toxic people out of your life.
This is why restraining orders exist.
If you insist ... I'll take you into the future of your idea, the block feature is there. You will not see nor are able to read posts of any person you wanna block, yet other players not having used the block feature can see posts made by others you have blocked.
As soon as that blocked person posts other players in your thread respond and start discussions with that blocked person.
You are left out by your own block feature, left out of the ongoing discussion, not able to respond.

And now?

:D


Which is one of the reason I've suggested that people you block not be able to see your threads either.
You can't see them, they can't see you.

Yes I'm blocking them from me.
But i'm also blocking myself, from them.

that's fine, if they wanted to interact with me they would have behaved better.
And ... that's what you want but is this what Jagex/JMods want to see happen?
And ... how will you accomplish this 'OffLine'?
What will the public on 'The Internet' see?

:D

05-Jul-2021 14:24:40

Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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@2_Tron

like 15 people even use this forum regularly, I don't think jagex cares at all what happens here.
like 3 guys makes up 70% of the posts here nowadays.

Maybe if they added a block feature and people could make posts without being baited and trolled all day, more people would use the forums in the first place.
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05-Jul-2021 14:46:09

Spearmint30
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Abby Taylor said :
@Spearmint30...Why does your desire to see a potential post, outweigh my desire to not be bothered by somebody I dislike?
Why do you think either of our desires outweigh the other when we're both getting what we want with what I've suggested? You wouldn't even know they posted, so couldn't possibly be bothered. You get to not deal with them, as you desire. I get to read what they think, as I desire.

Seemed like a good compromise to me.

Anyhow, I feel I've been very clear and I'm not interested in further circular debate at this time. That said, in closing, I feel that if the reason for this thread is to be able to block people from posting, I do not support this initiative.

However, if you're looking for reasonable solutions to the issue at hand, I feel as though the feedback I've offered throughout this thread is sufficient to satisfy the needs of a forum ignore feature that does not frivolously hinder or restrict use of the forums to users by other users.
Spearmint30

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05-Jul-2021 18:06:35

2_Tron

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Abby Taylor said :
@2_Tron

like 15 people even use this forum regularly, I don't think jagex cares at all what happens here.
like 3 guys makes up 70% of the posts here nowadays.

Maybe if they added a block feature and people could make posts without being baited and trolled all day, more people would use the forums in the first place.
Abby Taylor, when catering your idea you only can apply that to threads you originally have made yourself, other players threads you have nothing to say about so you still have to come along with your opponent going through the same door.

:D

05-Jul-2021 20:46:04

Abby Taylor
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Abby Taylor

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@Spearmint30

like I said, and you ignored I guess. I'm fine with compromising on that point, because we have nothing currently.
I would support an ignore feature as you described which doesn't hide threads from ignored users.
We agree on this.

The caveat is that if that was ever implemented I would further advocate for it to be expanded upon in the ways I have described.
We could have that debate when or If we ever get to it? got it?

I'm willing to compromise when it benefits me, but after I get what I want I will advocate for the system I prefer, that's how the world works, I don't fully agree with your solution and you don't fully agree with mine, so lets both take what we can get for the time being, and then continue later.

I just personally don't care about some perceived right people have to post in threads.


Edit: I wanted to point out again that the Runescape forum is a relatively unpopular space. This is a forum dedicated to an online fantasy video game.
This is NOT some serious economic or political debate forum.

I don't think this Laissez-faire attitude toward speech really applies to this forum.
To put it bluntly, the opinions of the people posting in the Runescape forums are of no consequence to anybody in the real world, and do not matter.
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05-Jul-2021 23:46:41 - Last edited on 06-Jul-2021 00:02:25 by Abby Taylor

Abby Taylor
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Abby Taylor

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@2_Tron

Typically I try to stick to my own threads anyway.

Because only like 10 other people use the Runescape forums anyway, and I don't get along with half of them.
A lot of the remaining forum users are insanely ignorant.

I recently watched 2 users spiral into a several hundred post comment chain, because one user posted statistical evidence, and both of them literally interpreted the data in the opposite direction, when it clearly favored one user over the other.

It's ridiculous that there is no ability to end these conversations without letting some other person flood your threads with ignorant, incorrect statements.
There needs to be a way for the owner of a thread to decide enough is enough in regards to insanely stupid trollbait posts crapping up their thread.

I'm not interested in "Just putting up with them"
I have no respect for that kind of lazy attitude.

It's my responsibility to advocate for what I think is correct and right.
and so far I've been disagreed with by a lot of -people- but I have not seen any real compelling arguments in their favor.
But a bunch of emotional appeal and vague illusions of speech freedom in a dying video game forum.
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05-Jul-2021 23:56:24 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2021 23:58:51 by Abby Taylor

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