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2_Tron

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Abby Taylor said :
Draco Burnz said :
333333333 said :
It won't work because people can hop accounts or offline reading threads!

+1

Thus solving nothing.

Plus threads arent supposed to be echo-chambers of yes men anyways.

If you dont like someone just dont read their posts.

Its not that hard.

Abby Taylor said :

What if somebody is really really really annoying, but they aren't breaking any major rules? Why should we have to put up with them.



The same reason you have to deal with those types IRL.

Sorry, but the forums arent only for you and the ppl you like.

Speak of the devil and he shall appear.
... LOL ... yeah he's some personality ... that's for sure. Disagreeing is always something that has been an issue for anyone, including me :P .
It's a process where both parties can held a mirror in front of each other but it won't have any effect.
You have to learn to brake off at the right time and let time run its course because there are other forces/powers that rule, making other decisions in a later stadium.
Don't be afraid to lose, don't be afraid to win.

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05-Jul-2021 10:16:23

Abby Taylor
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@Spearmint30

I don't think me blocking somebody, and them not being able to post in my thread wouldn't exactly affect what YOU can see.
if the person can't see my thread or post in it, then there is nothing for you to miss.
They never posted there, so you can't miss something that never existed.

I'm not sure what the big deal is about excluding people who are obnoxious. Annoying people don't need to be encouraged or given a free pass to irritate others.
Friend chats exist in game which exclude people, So I don't see a problem. They can still make their own thread if they want, so they aren't being ""silenced"" they would have a platform, just not my platform.

We are talking about a system that Jagex has not yet even attempted to implement, since the forums are pretty lackluster and not used a whole lot by the core player base.
Jagex isn't likely to ever implement something like this in the first place, simply because they can't get much money from it, it would be wasted dev time from their point of view.
So it wouldn't be beneficial to start by asking for a bunch of complex systems.

First I just want to see a simple block feature on the forums, that functions similarly to the ignore function in game.

"Users that go around "trolling" by objecting to ideas for no reason other than to be... arbitrarily contrary... is just part of being on the internet."

That's not a very proactive attitude towards a known problem.
I prefer to confront issues, not live with them.

I would say the best solution is a block feature to deal with those types of trolls. But also advocating for making that behavior against the rules could also work.

It can be tricky to discern who is trolling and who has genuine disagreements (like your concerns right now). Which is why the power should be up to the individuals rather than banning or muting people.
Instead of muting a possibly innocent troll, just let me cut that person out of MY experience.
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05-Jul-2021 10:33:13

Abby Taylor
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Abby Taylor

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@2_Tron

I have been using the internet for well over a decade. (I'm getting my 15 year cape soon ^_^ )

I have come to learn several things about human beings who use the internet:

1.
There is no incentive to compromise with an anonymous person you do not know.

2.
There are people who are fundamentally unreasonable, People who will never admit defeat, and People whose opinions can never be moved or changed. They simply won't allow it.

3.
I have seen people defending racism, and other insane ideologies for THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS. When somebody feels very strongly about something they will likely NEVER give up on it.

4.
Some opinions rightfully shouldn't be changed, regardless of the evidence.
Just because somebody puts on a suit and tie, and speaks in a posh British accent, and might even use some statistic data or compelling points.
You should still never compromise with him if he's suggesting you go out and hurt people, or hurt yourself, no matter how "civil" he is behaving when making those arguments.

5.
Some people are less intelligent than others. This is a sad truth about the unfair world we live in.
When two people have a disagreement, you can assume that one of them is correct and one of them is incorrect.
Surely if they disagree on something important, they both can't be correct at the same time? otherwise there would be no need to disagree.
It's not reasonable to expect the person with the correct point of view to change their mind to something incorrect.



tl;dr Some people can't be reasoned with, so we need the block feature to discontinue communication with toxic or annoying people.

In the real world bad communication can lead to physical violence.
This is why restraining orders exist.
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05-Jul-2021 10:58:24

Draco Burnz
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Abby Taylor said :


You arent forced to put up with anything if you just read my post:

Draco Burnz said :


If you dont like someone just dont read their posts.

Its not that hard.


Plus its not that hard to ignore ppl as you choose to read what they say or not.

If i can do it so can you. Thus this accomplishes nothing and isnt needed at all whatsoever.

Just go to reddit and downvote ppl and there you'll have you "ignore list" that you want.

Theres also FH if ppl are actually breaking the rules so just use that.
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05-Jul-2021 11:05:00 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2021 11:06:50 by Draco Burnz

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Abby Taylor said :



tl;dr Some people can't be reasoned with, so we need the block feature to discontinue communication with toxic or annoying people.

In the real world bad communication can lead to physical violence.
This is why restraining orders exist.

Nope ppl just really need to grow up and deal with the fact you have to deal with others you just dont like.

You cant always be in a safe little bubble of just you and your friends.

If you want that just start up a FC ingame and you'll have full control over that.

Here though, any one can post as long as they follow the rules and everyone has to deal with them.
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05-Jul-2021 11:09:22 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2021 11:10:03 by Draco Burnz

Spearmint30
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Abby Taylor said :
@Spearmint30...We are talking about a system that Jagex has not yet even attempted to implement Very true.

Like I said before, I do agree with and see the benefits of a Forum ignore system and my take on how it should work satisfies the requirement that a user can elect to not see content of some other user if they've ignored them, while not hindering that other user or their experience (and thus mine if they can't participate) in any way.

If you ignore them and can't see what they've posted, why the extra step in preventing them from posting? Doesn't some logic very similar to that which you've offered me apply in this scenario? If you ignore them and can't see their post, why would it matter to you if they posted?

I'm 100% behind the ability to control what you see. At the same time, I'm 100% against a tool that does that and hinders a user's ability to participate with others in a discussion no matter who started the discussion. That is where it starts to affect what I see in that, maybe I want to see said person's input on your topic even if you don't - without the need for them to post a potentially duplicate topic if they were not able to post their ideas on an already existing one.
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05-Jul-2021 12:35:36

Abby Taylor
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@Spearmint30

"maybe I want to see said person's input on your topic even if you don't"

That person wouldn't have an opinion on my topic if they couldn't see it ;)
Maybe they wouldn't have an opinion on it anyway?

Why does your desire to see a potential post, outweigh my desire to not be bothered by somebody I dislike?
Reducing conflict seems like a better utility than seeing some POSSIBLE post that may or may not exist.
We're not talking about silencing existing comments, or preventing people from making their own topics.


As long as you support my initial idea of a basic ignore feature that prevents me from seeing posts made by ignored users, then I'm fine.
I'll take that over nothing.
But if it's ever implemented I would personally continue to advocate to further it as we've explained.

We can agree on the first part at least. But I don't see the utility in allowing people to create conflict.
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05-Jul-2021 12:44:58

Abby Taylor
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@2_Tron

I'm not sure what you're talking about as it relates to a block feature?

Are you telling me to just accept being bothered and annoyed by bothersome annoying people? that's not very good advice.

I have plenty of empathy, But like any reasonable person I hate trolls and i hate being gaslighted by people.


You can have empathy while also keeping toxic people out of your life.
This is why restraining orders exist.
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05-Jul-2021 13:40:17 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2021 13:43:01 by Abby Taylor

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