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Thunder
Dec Member 2023

Thunder

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Thanks a lot for the reply, I'll look in to it more tomorrow and post an update if I can find a fix so we're all a little more knowledgeable in case someone else runs in to it in the future.

Edit: Decided to try to fix it before bed. Turns out Chrome, by default, can't be colour managed. I'm not sure why it messes up in the first place, but if you add " --enable-monitor-profile" in the Chrome launch options it allows Window's colour management to takeover and fixes the issue.

Turns out it was the colour profiles in the end, good thought Indi.

Edit2: Removing the launch options doesn't seem to revert the changes, odd.

Edit3: Firefox seems to be fixed without using the launch options, maybe there was just a hiccup with the colour management...

1) Calibrate my displays using Colour Management, didn't work but it enabled "Use Window's Display Calibration"
2) Ran the above launch options, worked.
3) Ran Firefox without launch options, worked.
4) Removed the launch options, still worked.
5) Disabled "Use Window's Display Calibration" that was enabled from calibrating, still worked.

I don't get it, I reverted everything I did but it still works. Must have been a bummed value somewhere that needed a little kick.

22-Dec-2014 10:42:20 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2014 11:08:43 by Thunder

Indecent Act

Indecent Act

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@Thunder,

Here's what I think (guessing actually) what's going on. I'm just posting this just in case you need a place to start, however I wouldn't be surprised if you already know all this stuff. So forgive me if I'm stating the obvious.

Colour Profiles are messy at the best of times, and tbh I'm amazed they work at all.

While images contain colour profiles, output devices like monitors also have colour profiles. What this means is that there are actually two conversions that take place with colour profiles.

The browser does it's conversions based on colour profile instructions that it gets from the image (seems fair enough), but then gets it's instructions (colour profile) from the operating system to use for the final output. Thus the images is re-converted from it's independent colour space into an output that's determined by your monitor's colour profile. Seriously I'm amazed anything works!

I have a suspicion that during the conversion process is where transparency is picking up opacity. Different colour profiles may give different results.

We can assume the information in the images is fine (else it wouldn't work for anyone). So I'm going to suggest the instructions your output device is using is where the issue is. This also explains why not all images will do it (they have different profiles that don't clash with yours) and it also explains why it's not browser independent, because they are using the same instruction set (both from the image and your system).

Not even sure if making sense any more so here's some further reading that explains it better than I can.

Even if it doesn't help it's kind of interesting...

http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/color-correction/

and a simple PNG transparency test...

http://entropymine.com/jason/testbed/pngtrans/

22-Dec-2014 11:22:51

Indecent Act

Indecent Act

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Lol I just saw your edit, glad its sorted and thanks for posting back :)

I think my last post still applies, and hopefully explains why problems arise. Why a profile 'sticks' or is not being applied is another issue. Since everything is working lets not even go there :)

22-Dec-2014 11:27:26

Lifer
Jul Member 2008

Lifer

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I have a suggestion for you that could perhaps be a blessing for small window users (such as people using laptops)

Upon loading a page, you could automatically left align all forum pages with the avatars on the left / left edge of a board with the left border of the window.

E.g. Instead of this

http://puu.sh/dF3mt.jpg

We can make automatic left align to this

http://puu.sh/dF3nz.jpg

And left align for the board view

http://puu.sh/dF3qX.jpg
http://puu.sh/dF3GU.jpg

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Another separate suggestion is that we can use arrow keys (or any other bindable keys) to navigate the forum. Up and down being fast scrolling up and down the page, and left and right being changing to the next page or previous page.

22-Dec-2014 14:50:32

Indecent Act

Indecent Act

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@Lifer, if you're okay with using the console let me know if this gives the desired result.

Make sure there is horizontal scroll bar visible and not centred. Just copy/paste into console and hit enter.

The code below will align the scrollbar to the middle.

var outer=document.body.offsetWidth;
var inner=document.getElementById('Background').offsetWidth;
$('body').scrollLeft((inner-outer)/2);


As for the navigation keys, the idea wasn't very popular (some time ago) and accidental key presses that make you lose your page was a concern. Think of runescape when you type without focusing the chat, I end up with 10 interfaces open, teleporting, and then map opens. I'm not keen on emulating those kind of frustrations.

Also I looked at your poll but I have stats from millions of samples from linkify users. In case you're wondering the most widly used screen res is 1920x1080 and around 90% of users see the full width of the area that holds the forum content.

Anyway lets focus on one thing at time, and see if the centring of the page gives desired result. Then maybe I can work on providing an option to automate it.

Dbow Dipshit said :
Can we keep the snow falling on the sides forever? Feels like a comp cape is raining down upon me.
It's nice you ask, but it'll be going at the end of the month until next Christmas. I need to make room for other things :)

Keighlea said :
-drops in and deposits some coffee into the collection tray-

-wanders around trying to figure out where I am-

The Purple Sorceress
Good to see you Keighlea, missed you!

Hope to see around a bit more and...

Merry Christmas :)

22-Dec-2014 21:44:46 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2014 21:56:19 by Indecent Act

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