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Sep

2005

Megycal

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I have never played OSRS. It took me many years to max this account and do all the quests. I'm an older player ( old enough to be a grandma to the younger J mods and getting pretty close to it being possible to be a great grandmother....eek! ) and there was no way I wanted to start from scratch again.

I struggled with EOC at first and still don't use it to the best effect but with revolution and some manual triggering of abilities I get by. I'm too slow to manage the difficult bosses ( older = slower reactions ) so some things are forever beyond my ability but I still have fun playing and achieving my goals . One of my goals is breeding every animal type in POF with the Ravensworn trait. A yak and a dragon are the only ones I still need.

I know bots have been brought up already but a quick look at the bot banning stats show OSRS has a much bigger bot population. They don't account for all of the difference in numbers but if you take those out of the equation the difference between OSRS and RS3 will be smaller. And, as others have mentioned, the mobile version for OSRS has helped by making the game available when on the move. It remains to be seen if RS3 on mobile will have the same effect when it is released for general use.

21-Apr-2019 12:55:43

Feb

2008

CaptKoloth

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I am an older player as well. But I still have good reflexes. I actually find boss mechanics a fun challenge. I may not pick up on the strategy as fast as some. But eventually learn the strategy. Which is basically the reflex issue with bosses. Once you learn the strategy. The boss becomes easy. Then it is time to move on to another boss. Why Jagex has to continue making new bosses with tougher strategies. I actually picked up EOC pretty quickly as well. But I prefer the old system. Because of the cleaner screen and less clicking. I agree with Singularity that for some EOC was too complicated.

21-Apr-2019 19:51:43

Apr

2012

Finance

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UrekMazino said :
Hype for RS3 mobile has long died out, I really doubt the influx of players will be huge. At least, not to the degree of OSRS mobile release. Jagex should've either announced it later or get it out sooner.
I agree with this. Whichever game came out first on mobile was bound to make a larger splash.

It's also interesting to think about the effect of RS mobile along the extrinsic margin (attracting new players) versus intrinsic margin (encouraging existing players to play more). We can't disentangle these effects solely from "players online" numbers.

My guess is that RS3 mobile will encourage existing players to play more, whereas OSRS mobile attracted more new players.
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22-Apr-2019 06:20:08

Jun

2012

Performs

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Finance said :

I agree with this. Whichever game came out first on mobile was bound to make a larger splash.

It's also interesting to think about the effect of RS mobile along the extrinsic margin (attracting new players) versus intrinsic margin (encouraging existing players to play more). We can't disentangle these effects solely from "players online" numbers.

My guess is that RS3 mobile will encourage existing players to play more, whereas OSRS mobile attracted more new players.

this post makes a lot of sense, I also think that osrs mobile is different from a lot of button mash mobile games whereas rs3 may attract some new people to try it but if they find it similar to other mobile games, and realize the time commitment to level they wont stay imo
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23-Apr-2019 00:47:29

Jul

2016

Chee

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Singularity said :
EoC turned a simple game into a more complex one and for many people that was a deal-breaker
while I don't care for the complexity and I do prefer OSRS combat, I can hold up just fine even in group PvM - I just hate it bc it's not enjoyable

items actually feel like they make a difference in OSRS, rather than just giving a +2% chance of 10% damage reduction or whatever the dumb leviathan ring has - need more magic damage? use a tormented brace and occult necklace, and ancestral if you can - anything that powerful in RS3 gets nerfed to oblivion because their precious 'bALaNce' is disrupted

remember when people realistically wore tetsu? yeah, me neither
what about defenders? oh right, people complain bc it isn't the same DPS as a DW weapon - guess it's trash now
hold on what about nox weapons? oh right they're also garbage now bc of the 4.8% extra accuracy and 2.2% extra damage that T92s give

TBH I don't think even higher level equipment with great passive effects can save RS3 bc whatever it is, someone will find a way to point out how useless it is bc damage is the only thing that matters

it's a shame, combat is a joke, and bosses like Solak are also a joke @Chee__RS

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23-Apr-2019 09:45:45 - Last edited on 23-Apr-2019 09:47:06 by Chee

Feb

2008

CaptKoloth

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Chee, EOC has no balance. I laugh when it was said ,when introduced, it would make the defence skill worth something. All it did was make it more worthless. Heck a few years ago a maxed out 1 def pure got the Final Boss title.

23-Apr-2019 18:15:43

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There's still 1 def pures in RS3? What's the point, other than giving yourself a handicap? Lol.

I think one thing that held EoC back from being reaching the potential that some had hoped for was that if I'm not mistaken, the beta was held back by a pay-wall (premium membs) for the majority of the time, so that kinda prevented a lot of people from getting the chance to try it out and give some valuable feedback. Another thing was that not many people saw a point in participating in the beta as to delve into it, you were wasting XP in the live game.

It's unfortunate that an update that was designed to attract new and more players to the game just isolated a large community (the PKing community), and pushed other players away as it was certainly quite complicated and overwhelming for some. It also took a while to get some much needed buff/nerf updates. Not having Revolution or Legacy combat at it's release hurt as well. I don't think players would've had the same reaction if they still had the option to use the old combat system from the get-go. It gave players the impression that it was a "don't like it, too bad" situation.

But without EoC, I'm not sure that we'd see OSRS today, or it may have taken a little longer for it to come around, so despite the negative implications that it's had, I'm glad it happened in a way.

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24-Apr-2019 00:06:03

Dec

2011

Swift Punch

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RS3 will die through attrition of players as most other popular MMO are going through currently. New players don't see RS3 and think it's great. WOW in 2004 was better than RS3 is today. The combat system was implemented so poorly it's an absolute joke. The game tries to simulate an active combat system while being bottlenecked by a simulated tick system. It's absolutely ridiculous.

24-Apr-2019 02:26:00

Dec

2011

Swift Punch

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Megycal said :
I have never played OSRS. It took me many years to max this account and do all the quests. I'm an older player ( old enough to be a grandma to the younger J mods and getting pretty close to it being possible to be a great grandmother....eek! ) and there was no way I wanted to start from scratch again.

I struggled with EOC at first and still don't use it to the best effect but with revolution and some manual triggering of abilities I get by. I'm too slow to manage the difficult bosses ( older = slower reactions ) so some things are forever beyond my ability but I still have fun playing and achieving my goals . One of my goals is breeding every animal type in POF with the Ravensworn trait. A yak and a dragon are the only ones I still need.

I know bots have been brought up already but a quick look at the bot banning stats show OSRS has a much bigger bot population. They don't account for all of the difference in numbers but if you take those out of the equation the difference between OSRS and RS3 will be smaller. And, as others have mentioned, the mobile version for OSRS has helped by making the game available when on the move. It remains to be seen if RS3 on mobile will have the same effect when it is released for general use.

I see you point out that there are tons of more bots on osrs. That is true, however can you ask yourself why that is? Do you think maybe it's because so many more people are interested in osrs that it's not even worth it to bot on rs3? That says a lot to me, idk about you.

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