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Kakamile

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Lord Nerevar said :
Was Hoarding ever something seriously used or was it just something extra to throw on back when Fortunate Comps were dirt cheap? If you die a lot (etc rots learning) it's a 200k-300k gp saved I guess.
Sadly changing my layout to include it cost millions because RNG. Take that as you will.

Lord Nerevar said :
Also aside from cost is there ever a reason to use Equilibrium 3 over Aftershock 3? Precise 5 would be the other weapon perk since I'm not rich enough for attempting P5E2. Seems to me that any weapon you might want Equilibrium 3 on you'd also still want Aftershock 3 for the AoE on slayer tasks. Equilibrium is a higher base % and way cheaper and doesn't require you to put aftershock on all your mainhands.
Aftershock combo becomes better if you can slip eq into p4e2 or p5e1 or if you're somewhere where you AOE, but ofc that comes at cost.
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03-May-2017 22:20:29

DramaticHobo
Nov Member 2011

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Kakamile said :
Update/warning

With fortunate components 800k and rising, it's no longer affordable for hoarding components.

Which means you can't use one component for hoarding.

Which means you can't make Crackling 3 hoarding.
I knew hoarding a bunch of interesting combo gizmos would come in handy, all those months ago! :o

08-May-2017 17:29:13

Quasar
Apr Member 2017

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what have people been comboing with crackling3? (and maybe biting 2 also)

I have crackling3 + crystal shield 1 for telos/vorago and a bit2 + mobile gizmo waiting around for a switch (achto legs ?).

for araxxor I was thinking about crackling 3 + reflexes and biting 2 + venomblood. don't have money for an extra nox so i wouldn't feel bad about no bit3. i see you can do imp3 + reflexes though, so maybe i should stick something else on the crackling?

has anyone tried to get biting 2 + shield bashing 2? It should be possible, but no idea how rare it is.

also, I got 4 shadow components from my scav perk. is caroming 3 rare with 4 components or should I just yolo it once I hit 120? HLF Rookie of the Year, 2015.

31-May-2017 10:27:51 - Last edited on 31-May-2017 10:40:10 by Quasar

Lyrielle
Apr Member 2015

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Crackling 3 with venomblood is nice for araxxor and greg, but super rare and expensive to get. Biting 2 with venomblood should be easier to get I think. Crackling 3 with mobile is also good for when you need to surge a lot, I have that on my achto primeval for high enrage telos. On my tectonic I have crackling 3 with crystal shield 1. Not sure if that's the best one though, considering putting mobile on it instead.

31-May-2017 13:31:05 - Last edited on 31-May-2017 13:35:26 by Lyrielle

Yewnock
Feb Member 2021

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Scott M said :
Is p3e2 better than p5? It kind of depends on the ability damage ranges. For most abilities, they are mostly the same. If you want the numbers:

Precise 5 is average +6.25% dps.

Equilibrium modifier is applied to the damage range after precise modifier (you can test that on max/min dummies). This means, using the 20%-100% range for most abilities:

Base range: 20% - 100%

Precise 3 modifier: 24.5% - 100%
(adds 4.5% of the max hit to min hit)

Equilibrium 2 modifier (over previous range): 29.03% - 98.49%
(increases min hit by 6% of the range, reduces max hit by 2% of range)

For a final average of 63.76%, or an increase of ~6.27%.

For abilities with higher damage ranges (such as wild magic, auto attacks, revenge) p3e2 better, while abilities with lower damage ranges (snipe, snapshot) p5 is better.

Of course, that is assuming you are using aftershock 3 on your main hand/other slot.

25-Jul-2017 02:16:00 - Last edited on 25-Jul-2017 02:16:51 by Yewnock

Scott M
Feb Member 2016

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Yewnock said :
Scott M said :
Is p3e2 better than p5? It kind of depends on the ability damage ranges. For most abilities, they are mostly the same. If you want the numbers:

Precise 5 is average +6.25% dps.

Equilibrium modifier is applied to the damage range after precise modifier (you can test that on max/min dummies). This means, using the 20%-100% range for most abilities:

Base range: 20% - 100%

Precise 3 modifier: 24.5% - 100%
(adds 4.5% of the max hit to min hit)

Equilibrium 2 modifier (over previous range): 29.03% - 98.49%
(increases min hit by 6% of the range, reduces max hit by 2% of range)

For a final average of 63.76%, or an increase of ~6.27%.

For abilities with higher damage ranges (such as wild magic, auto attacks, revenge) p3e2 better, while abilities with lower damage ranges (snipe, snapshot) p5 is better.

Of course, that is assuming you are using aftershock 3 on your main hand/other slot.

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25-Jul-2017 02:19:18

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