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this is how runescape was and how it should of stayed. there are only a few logical reasons why you wouldnt want such things back. and those are either YOU have been scammed, Killed while not pking, new to the game, or simply scared all your 'valuable' items are gonna drop in price. Things that revolve around YOU..jagex may care what kids like you think, but the other 90% of us dont. you're annoying and simply in the way of something that was taken away from US..oldschool players, pkers, stakers and everyone who voted yes. all i have to say is forget you and your opinions if you vote no. as for those of you who voted yes, your GOD.
Vote yes, don't be a loser.
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05-Jan-2011 16:53:23

I-Ieero

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I think that skillers say the same thing about pkers johnny, keep the revs so that pkers have the same thing to worry about as the skillers and questers. A skiller views the pkers as someone that is going to result in their loss and nothing to gain. Where a pker views revs as their loss nothing to gain.
It's a simple concept to understand, let revs stay so that the pvp crowd doesn't miss out on the feelings of the skillers and questers.

05-Jan-2011 16:53:24

Gpianist

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Reading all the previous replies(1300 pages...WOW) has made me regret and question my old decision to say yes to the vote.... I say this because I have realized that the community has grown with the game...and even though we think that we want the old wildy and free trade back, I am sure you will think of it in the same way. I mean, most of you only realize the "good" part of the old times of 2007. Do any of you remember being scammed as a newbie, or lured in the wilderness and then be "pwnt" by some guy who thinks he is awesome just because he has killed some guy who he considers a noob? Now, I bet most of you may argue with me as you will say "Oh, but it was so fun..." and other stuff...If you ask me, I think that instead of trying to woo the old crowd, you should improve parts of the game that do not contradict your old decision. Like instead of free trade, you could make the grand exchange more dynamic and instead of the wilderness, you could get out the crap about PVP and BH worlds and instead choose like a quarter of the worlds for the old wildy. Also, you could make the limit to trading like 50k for all instead of making it "free" trade... Now to JAGEX, just imagine the implications of what you have done. Now RW, luring, scamming and botting will done even though it could be prevented, just if you had thought of it before making the vote. Also, Kudos for loosing that 10% crowd which said no to your decision... I am sure that most of them were members because in free worlds, these activites are the best way to make money. I am impressed by this bold decision you have taken but ask yourself...is this really a way to woo new customers? half of them will probably quit because of being scammed or lured. You may not know it but more that half your crowd is just 12 year olds, who dont know the slightest bit about pking. Ill post more on a separate thread if need be. Last but not least. I posted on a page with two 0s...nice...Written by a person who said no, GPIANISt

05-Jan-2011 16:57:12

JohneySteel

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@ Heero1576:
Wow guy, calm down. People are people, reguardless of what they do runescape. You will find people who like to toss insults, and pick on other people, just because they can. Pking is competative, frustrating fun. Pkers toss insults back and forth all the time. Getting downed by some noob taunting you is no reason for you to judge every pker.
You've fought a REAL pker when your fight starts with a "GL" and ends with a "GF". Its not a rule, its not something that certain people plan to do, but its just become one of the things people are accustom to doing to show good sportsmanship.
Pkers have a world to themselves, yes. Alot of people like the idea of a pvp world and want to keep it. That is NOT our issue; its the drops.
You down someone in 1mil gear, you get 200k loot.
you down someone in full rune, you get half of a pie.
you down someone in 100mil+ gear, you get junk drop.
Seen it happen too many times before and ive experiences some bad drops myself.
want to know why people 26k/76k tricked? Because it was the only way to make money in pvp. You cant continue to pk when your constantly losing money and not gaining enough.
EP? you have to wait 30mins to get 25%, and you lose a chunk for teleporting while under attack.
There is too much EPing and not enough PKing. The only way to make profit is to not die. So people ep, and trick. Play it safe for hours and gain money. Why pk when you can EP and trick?
Thats the reason pkers arent satisfied with the current system.
The reason i want pking back to how it was, is to re-live the memories, and pk at my best now that im alot stronger.

05-Jan-2011 16:57:24 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2011 17:01:12 by JohneySteel

FredUp

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its pretty clear that wildy and free tradewill come based on all the votes
but im still against it
why you ask well I have played runescape before and after free trade and its a lot easier to buy things now than it was when people can charge what they want.
sure the g.e will help things and it will be betetr than before but if people don't like the g.e price they will just go to free trade which could end up making the g./e redundant?
as for the wilderness people cant understand why I hate this so much when I oppenly admit I used to be a player killer and I even used to stake santa hats in the duel arena.
Well its kind of simple I prefer worlds for pk and worlds for people that want to skill
and befroe you say it yes i know the pk worlds dont give enought reward so please read on
I like the idea of questers and skillers being able to do it in piece if they want to but i also love the fact if there risky the can wear brawler gloves in pk worlds to get more experience.
and i dont understand why instead of detleting all the player killing worlds they don't jsut change them a bit so they have the new wilderness in them and if someone kills you when your wearing full dragon they get you full dragon .
also instead of brawler gloves anyone skilling in a player killer world could get twice as much experience as standard to incourage people to take a risk and go in.
I belive if they did this they wouldnt have to rearrange half the maps as peopple skilling who dont want to take a risk could play in the old wildy worlds and people that claim they like this risk of wilderness could go in the player killing worlds and get more experience and both parties would be happy?

05-Jan-2011 16:59:17 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2011 17:05:46 by FredUp

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Heero, you're dividing skillers, questers and pkers into different groups as if we were different kinds of species. We are all part of the same gaming community, and there's nothing that says that you can't be a pker and skiller at the same time? And I really doubt all the players belonging to the 90% who voted YES are pkers?
hello my friendos

05-Jan-2011 17:00:47

I-Ieero

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I never got into pking because it's not my interest in playing the game right now, I didn't know how the loot system worked on the pvp worlds simply because they don't interest me. I would be for taking pvp back to where you kill someone you get all their gear I don't have a problem with that.
I just don't feel it's right to force pvp on all worlds and all wilds.

05-Jan-2011 17:03:11

Silmaryllon

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Johney525 You seem to be saying that it's ok if the balance is uneven in your favour but not if it swings against you.
The new wildy is not going to be the same as the old wildy, mostly because the people who pk now are made up of a lot of players who have no idea what it was like.
The old ones are gone and I doubt that many will come back now.
One thing is that the wildy was Big and Wild and anything goes in a big wild place so why not have a few revs around to even the score a bit?
As for skilling in the wildy, like making air orbs and rc if you go up there you have to be prepared to either run, fight or die, but you get a warning so it's fair.
Shame that the people who have already got wealthy by cheating will keep what they'v cheated to get (including hiscores)and be able to manipulate prices and collect from macros so making a mockery of the spirit of free trade.

05-Jan-2011 17:03:53

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