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Kentt
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Kentt

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This is getting way off-topic, so I'm going to help Crow bring it back :P

Keep in mind everyone, you can customize these for yourselves, not just use presets. If you think a certain setup won't work for you, you can adjust it to your own liking ;)
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26-Jun-2013 16:52:46

Harley Quinn

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My interface does actually have full functionality, and appeal to all play styles. You can have multiple chats open at once without taking up half your screen like the winning entry, it is highly optimized for combat, it looks good in my opinion, very clean and sophisticated. I've had it peer reviewed by 20 people. All of whom found little they could criticise except for minor preferences. I invited a new player to join and I showed him how to set up my interface and I got feedback on its new-user friendliness, He couldn't find anything to criticise, He specifically said "I thought this is how the interface was supposed to be set up." If you yourself took a look Mod Crow, and read the "Essays" I wrote about all the functions and the tricks of the interface I had set up, I'm sure you would also see it my way.

While I can appreciate everyone has their own personal preference it is far better to go for the interface that appeals to the widest audience and has FULL functionality and isn't tailored to one cluttered "Social" style.

I Also created a far better "Social" interface which I also submitted along with an "Essay" about its functions. It wasn't a cluttered mess.

A public vote would have been best, although I can see how it could be manipulated by those people who have many friends. Or a large following on Twitter for example.

Edit: Search Reddit's Runescape Subreddit to see my entry to anyone who wants to. 'My NIS Layout. - Yaralda'

26-Jun-2013 16:54:13 - Last edited on 26-Jun-2013 16:55:48 by Harley Quinn

G4m0t

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Mod Crow said :
G4m0t said :
Mod Crow said :
I'm sorry you are unhappy that you didn't win Yaralda but attacking the other entries is not going to change anything. It would be unlikely that one single interface set up would have universal support from everyone, our developers chose the ones that appealed to them, it's understandable that others might appeal to you more but that doesn't mean others aren't valuable either.

It's not about winning, it's about the usefullness of the default layout. Do you mods really think that half screen covered with chatboxes is really that good? RS is not all about chatting. Shouldn't we be able to enjoy the new graphix?
You should also think about the new players. They might not no how to change those things. Default layout should be simple and balanced between PvM, skilling and chatting.

RuneScape may not be social for you but that does not mean it isn't for others ;) Whilst this will be a preset it won't be the initial interface that everyone will have to start with.

The interface system is all about choice, of which this will be one of several. On top of all that players can freely customise the layout to how they want.

Yes, you are right that I am not very social. I don't mind hearing that at all. I just don't understand why there has to be so many chatboxes.
Maybe because I need space, a lot of space. I guess everyone has their own prefences. Either of way I am very thankful that you found time to answer me and inform me that this layout will not be the initial interface. I feel so much better that new players won't be forced to use this complex interface as they start their 1st day of adventuring.
Thank you Mod Crow :)

26-Jun-2013 16:55:36 - Last edited on 26-Jun-2013 16:56:27 by G4m0t

Glacial Wulf

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I'd like to add my two cents to the mix. I was excited to see the winning entries for the NIS system, as I've played other games, like World of Warcraft, where interface design and organization is paramount to good playing (your skills can take a hit if using a bad design, but be boosted if using a well-organized one). I've spent many hours looking up interface designs when shaping my own interface for these games, so I've come to recognize what works and what doesn't. Upon clicking the post, I'll admit I was rather...disappointed. There must've been many entries (hundreds, I imagine), and I'm honestly surprised that those two were considered the best out of all of them. For interfaces, a minimalist, uncluttered, simple design rules the day, hands down. While I think Bresmine's design did trump the winner's, it still takes up a significant portion of the screen.

To critique TechEngineer's layout, for me it fails to be effective because the chat tabs take up the whole left side of the screen. There's no reason that that much chat text is typed in all chats at once, that you'd need all 4 open at the same time. I'd far prefer to take the mere seconds to click on a chat tab to see what else is going on, and save the precious screen space, then have all 4 open at once. The only situation in which I might actually use TechEngineer's layout is if I were GE standing (loafing), and simply chatting (and perhaps AFK skilling at the same time).

The runner-up's is more successful than TechEngineer's, and it actually reminds me of an early interface setup I ran when I played WoW. But then my interface changed to be less cluttered and chock full when I started searching for better alternatives. Ones that sort crucial aspects of the interface into different areas of the screen, instead of bunching it together.

I saw Yaralda's design, and I believe that it is a far better, all-around useful, aesthetically-pleasing design. I saved it so I can reference it when making mine.

26-Jun-2013 16:55:37 - Last edited on 26-Jun-2013 17:04:54 by Glacial Wulf

Zyphix
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Congratulations to the winners
(one's a completionist, suprise suprise [although I like Bressy, of what I know of them]).

Did what the 'pros' make end up too professional? Did JAGeX want a layout that looks exactly like what they already have in-game? I guess everybody that put thought and hard effort into helping just gets denied every contest.

I asked alot of players what they thought, and to quote exactly:
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I looked at them and thought, "wait, are we suposed to use that cr[udd]y layout"
Which reflected my views too. I'm not mad at players that won. And I can't speculate if they have friends in high places or not, so kudos to them. But the layouts are so UNUSABLE. They're just blocky chunks of game data framing the games outter edges, with no real point to their positioning. And as I said, JAGeX already has layouts like that.
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Nice, gratz to Tech & Bressy! (I submitted one similar to Bressy! <3) Can we see the top 5 & 10 as well too now that the competiton? >=D
I think people wanted to see some variety, not more of the same. But more of the same seems to be what JAGeX always is, and does. I will not be entering any more contests again. I know many of you players (of course mine included) made much more thoughtful entries.

I'm sick of every contest seeming to be favouritism and/or bias in favour 'HLF'-types or people with connections. Of course, contests with such rewards being so few and far between, JAGeX chooses just a few players. I saw alot of other entries I liked by others that were so insightful. It's disappointing to see extensive creativity shunned and denied so often, on the so few occasions.

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26-Jun-2013 16:56:26 - Last edited on 26-Jun-2013 17:04:20 by Zyphix

Was Zeus

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Kentt said :
This is getting way off-topic, so I'm going to help Crow bring it back :P

Keep in mind everyone, you can customize these for yourselves, not just use presets. If you think a certain setup won't work for you, you can adjust it to your own liking ;)
Yes, but if you bothered to read ANY of the posts here, you would see that is not what the issue is. Please don't act cocky and act like you know what's going on when you clearly don't ZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZEUSZE

26-Jun-2013 16:56:47

Luke91

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I feel bad for anyone who actually entered because a group of J-Mod's voting leads to a clear biased based on the styles of play each individual has, not to mention staff role/influence. *That's if the majority of the staff even play the game outside of work*

A public or member vote would have gained proper feedback and the best design as voted for by the players who 'might' be choosing to use it would have won. Plus it's not biased or influenced (Not easily anyway).

Commiserations to the other entrants but congratulations to the chosen two.

26-Jun-2013 16:59:25

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