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My primary concern about the recent Squeal of Fortune update concerns the real-life threats we face with regard to account security. If my account is stolen without my knowledge while I am a subscribing member, then $200 per day can literally be stolen from my credit card by an unknown internet user buying SoF tickets! I am well-educated in the field of account security, but for the the benefit of others, will you consider adding a credit card verification requirement in order to buy SoF tickets?
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We've already implemented this
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We've already implemented this
13-Apr-2012 18:54:46
Purus Feles:
"To whoever can explain this.
Many people "flame" fellow players who complain about the fps problems.
The most common is that those who complain are told that they have crappy computers and should buy new stuff etc.
But...unless I misread (in tech support)...I read something about the game-engine being part of the problem and that there appears to be a (fps) problem with RS running on (some) computer(s) with more then 1 processor.
Can this whole fps problem be explained in complete honesty and in such a way that its clear for the "dumbies" as well?
(perhaps by creating a "fps problem explanation guide for dumbies" thread...as we are not all "computer specialists"
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There are several things that add up to cause the frame rate issues. The underlying issue is historical. When RuneScape was first written (before HD), it was a purely software based graphics engine. That means that all of the work was done on your CPU, rather than on your graphics card. This is good in some ways and bad in others. It meant that RuneScape would run (slowly) on any computer, regardless of what graphics hardware you have. It did however mean that the graphics were a bit rubbish.
When HD was introduced, we moved to having 4 ways to render the graphics:
- Pure Java (now called Safe Mode). This is the slowest way to see the game (I can't really emphasise this enough, as people seem to think it is faster), but it will always work, if the other methods don't work for you. You should never need to choose this, which is why there is no button for it in the graphics options
- Software mode. This also does not use the graphics card, but it works by running some native code (i.e. not Java) written a mixture of C++, assembly and intrinsics in order to provide an experience that is faster that safe mode, but also does not need any particular graphics drivers to be installed. This is generally the best way to play on netbooks, and other low-end devices
- OpenGL and DirectX. These two are the hardware modes, and are generally the best way to play RuneScape. However, the problem that exists with this is that the software mode was written first. When writing graphics code to run on graphics cards, you have to write it in a very different way to how you would write it to have a software rasteriser. As our hardware modes are grafted into the existing engine, they are not quite so efficient as they might be. When we obfuscate this code, any slowdown this causes is magnified, which has caused the slowdown since the bot update. The underlying issue is difficult for us to solve, but it is certainly something we keep on coming up with ideas to deal with, and we have plans that should mitigate this to some degree. The anti-botting issue I think I have covered fairly thoroughly elsewhere. Technical Director
"To whoever can explain this.
Many people "flame" fellow players who complain about the fps problems.
The most common is that those who complain are told that they have crappy computers and should buy new stuff etc.
But...unless I misread (in tech support)...I read something about the game-engine being part of the problem and that there appears to be a (fps) problem with RS running on (some) computer(s) with more then 1 processor.
Can this whole fps problem be explained in complete honesty and in such a way that its clear for the "dumbies" as well?
(perhaps by creating a "fps problem explanation guide for dumbies" thread...as we are not all "computer specialists"
"
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There are several things that add up to cause the frame rate issues. The underlying issue is historical. When RuneScape was first written (before HD), it was a purely software based graphics engine. That means that all of the work was done on your CPU, rather than on your graphics card. This is good in some ways and bad in others. It meant that RuneScape would run (slowly) on any computer, regardless of what graphics hardware you have. It did however mean that the graphics were a bit rubbish.
When HD was introduced, we moved to having 4 ways to render the graphics:
- Pure Java (now called Safe Mode). This is the slowest way to see the game (I can't really emphasise this enough, as people seem to think it is faster), but it will always work, if the other methods don't work for you. You should never need to choose this, which is why there is no button for it in the graphics options
- Software mode. This also does not use the graphics card, but it works by running some native code (i.e. not Java) written a mixture of C++, assembly and intrinsics in order to provide an experience that is faster that safe mode, but also does not need any particular graphics drivers to be installed. This is generally the best way to play on netbooks, and other low-end devices
- OpenGL and DirectX. These two are the hardware modes, and are generally the best way to play RuneScape. However, the problem that exists with this is that the software mode was written first. When writing graphics code to run on graphics cards, you have to write it in a very different way to how you would write it to have a software rasteriser. As our hardware modes are grafted into the existing engine, they are not quite so efficient as they might be. When we obfuscate this code, any slowdown this causes is magnified, which has caused the slowdown since the bot update. The underlying issue is difficult for us to solve, but it is certainly something we keep on coming up with ideas to deal with, and we have plans that should mitigate this to some degree. The anti-botting issue I think I have covered fairly thoroughly elsewhere. Technical Director
13-Apr-2012 18:55:48
@Engine Team and CM
1. There has been talk of "Optimus", the next bot and engine performance update, Is there any word to when it may be released, and if no date is available, will it be soon? ( I see this was asked, I read the answer, thank you!)
- Soon, but no concrete date, yet, sorry
2. When the "Optimus" update is released, what kind of engine fixes will we expect to see, in regards to improving performance and FPS on our end? (Again, I see this was already asked, Thank you!)
- A big FPS improvement!
1. There has been talk of "Optimus", the next bot and engine performance update, Is there any word to when it may be released, and if no date is available, will it be soon? ( I see this was asked, I read the answer, thank you!)
- Soon, but no concrete date, yet, sorry
2. When the "Optimus" update is released, what kind of engine fixes will we expect to see, in regards to improving performance and FPS on our end? (Again, I see this was already asked, Thank you!)
- A big FPS improvement!
13-Apr-2012 18:57:20
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