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Am RolePlay

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I just generally don't like this idea.

Sure, player-owned kingdoms have their handful of problems, but I enjoy the idea of interacting with the ruling class.

I personally think that POKs have been apart of 42 for too long to discard them. I don't support it at all - that's just my two cents.

14-Jan-2017 03:15:08

Lady Airlea
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BloxzorKBG said :
Lady Airlea said :
BloxzorKBG said :
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First, I asked you not to post anything about Asgarnia on this until Aro posted the announcement.


BloxzorKBG said :
(Though she told me to not include Asgarnia among the listing until Aro confirms he/she is down too) .

I really tried to make it clear that I was waiting on Aro's confirmation man idk but sorry anyways

Aro is down. Was a matter of getting the thread posted explaining it. How Asgarnia was going to shift the power, the plots for it, all that. But, whoopsie.

As for the Inter-Wars, Khaine, there've not been any big land-claimming wars in a long time. The last I can think of that wasn't tied to some plot was Asgarnia recapturing Burthorpe.

And that was a mess. I can't think of a single person who left that RP happy that was involved in the melee, as both myself and the enemy commander couldn't agree on anything from whether a naval attack was legitimate, to whether it was alright for a certain clan who we knew, ICly and OOCly, was going to turn on us to swap sides after being locked out from the battle.

Honestly? The mess was so atrocious, activity plummeted in Asgarnia. A war killed activity, not fostered it. That was the sign, to me, that I not only had to step down from spearheading anything but internal plots, but that the clan as a whole, and arguably, the community, does not like war.

The Countdown was fun, when PoKs stayed uninvolved. As soon as they came in, nervous of losing land the factions weren't taking, stuff went from just a bunch of fun fights to a horrible mess. We can have plot wars, even God Wars, and as long as nothing won/nothing lost, people won't get bitter.

PoKs became a paranoid, toxic mess. People are so worried about someone taking land, they don't actually do anything with it.
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14-Jan-2017 03:20:13

Marine Doge

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I agree with it.

It doesn't remove ruling class RP -- you can still have very influential nobles. The Grey Family will always be extremely influential in Asgarnia due to their past rep as royalty, and we can still have mayors or such of smaller towns, like Draynor or Rimmington. Mods pls notice me

14-Jan-2017 03:53:11

Quael
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This is a good idea, in a sense that it works. But what should it be done?

Well, Asgarnia is rules by the WK's npc leader, making the WK in charge (the group as well) Where does that lead the Asgarnia group? Well that depends, either They disband and join the WK, or they keep the group and just make an army/ council member, that are in charge of the kingdom second under the npc leader.

Giving up a POK to an NPC doesn't mean the end to a group, council members, lower ranks in charge, or military warriors can still run it in a different angle. Of course this would take away a very "important" factor of a POK, war. If a Kingdom was finally handed to the NPC, that means war would not be a thing anymore unless it is a guild/faction/organization invasion, but even there does give some problem, like should the invader be allowed to win? Or do they automatically lose even if they win?

Overall I agree POK should end, and have people on the side run it under the npc leader. This change will require a lot of thinking, and work to make possible, but it might be possible.
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14-Jan-2017 04:23:49

BloxzorKBG

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Am RolePlay said :
I just generally don't like this idea.

Sure, player-owned kingdoms have their handful of problems, but I enjoy the idea of interacting with the ruling class.

I personally think that POKs have been apart of 42 for too long to discard them. I don't support it at all - that's just my two cents.

Am RolePlay said :
Alright - so through this thread's brief life-span we saw a few key points:

II. POKs in general should be disbanded. While I don't think that this will ever happen, atleast in the time that I have left on here, it's not an awful idea.


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14-Jan-2017 04:32:08

RiDaku
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I think it's a bad idea. A lot of plots revolve around the people in power, because roleplay on runescape is a power fantasy. And once we hand things over to npcs, what do we do when we decide we want to go back? First-come-first-serve? Popularity vote? "Give it to the new guy" cliche?

I've ran a single POK (not even a kingdom, it was a city. Falador.) and that was during its peak inactivity we've ever seen, after a certain two people did their absolute best to destroy it - By taking over from an NPC, no less. My POC was an absolute shitshow, nobody participated despite all the support leading up to it, and that's a big problem with POC/K's is that people will hoot and holler over someone new getting it, and then expect them to pull people out of thin air for activity, without actually joining themselves. That's a big part of the reason why people think POKs don't work, they don't help them work.

Yet at the same time.. POKs have been and continue to be a big part of our roleplays. The struggle over wars in POKs will just shift to something else after people stop being able to take over the kingdom, and will we want to abolish that, too? The Sicarius |
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14-Jan-2017 04:37:54

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