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Dong U Dead

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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/nov/28/electric-cars-porsche-charging-network


If electric cars are our future I feel close to every public parking spot needs a changing device.

Not all homes are equipped for electric cars. Having charging stations scattered around the place isn't good enough, they will need close to every parking sport to occupy one for a country to become electric.

They will needs to supply charging stations for the future of electric cars.

Me personally will not be buying electric any time soon, I would not vote to become a electric car only country (if that ever came into play). As the above article states more needs to be done.
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29-Nov-2020 00:39:30

Aponi
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We will have to look at the cost to operate public chargers versus the cost to make home chargers for cars. The latter is cheaper. It's not simple to put up charging stations in public because vandalism and idiots exist.

When a carmaker sells you a portable charger, that's it; they are done with you. Public stations will cost them maintenance fees and taxes. You will be the person paying for the fees and taxes, which will be included in your vehicle's price. Another way is if you own an electric car, you'll be taxed extra, but that's against the spirit of protecting the environment.

29-Nov-2020 00:47:51

Dong U Dead

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England, America, New Zealand and possibly other countries want to pass a law that people can't buy new petrol run cars or something similar to this in the next 10 years. Not all people have Driveways, parks outside their homes or even live beside a road.

There will be hundreds and thousands people that would like to buy a brand new car which will have to be electric in the near future but won't have access to a power source.

My city huge amounts of people live up huge amounts of steps to get to there home, often can't park out the front of their home. To make electric cars happen I feel they will need to make near all parking spacing with charges.
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29-Nov-2020 01:38:23

XSlay4DeathX
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Electric Cars are not the future, sorry to burst any dreams. I value electric cars as they save on gas etc but for "everyone" to own one is impossible.....bigger challenges lie ahead. Only future for electric cars is to limit gas use by X amount, not a full replacement.

I don't know much about todays hydro limits but i'm sure the fuses will blow up if everyone owned one and that's not counting the space for said charging stations/ wires underground that cause risks for those digging up pipes etc.

Hydro costs will spike, might even collapse under the usage needed(black outs) <--like i mentioned i know nothing about hydro limits but i have read before hydro companies need to find other methods for making more power so given that, it's a technology limit.

^i have no solution for this issue, i do what i can to limit gas use myself but many things have limitations and bypassing some of them have great costs/risk factors. My two cents.

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Best method i'v found to figure out if something will work out long term is from the point of view that it did work out and decode what is needed to make it happen while also factoring in the logical thinking of what could go wrong and costs. My hydro bills keep going up and up and the electric car future isn't fully rolled out so it breaks logic that it will work out flawlessly anytime soon.

29-Nov-2020 02:46:53 - Last edited on 29-Nov-2020 03:44:23 by XSlay4DeathX

XSlay4DeathX
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Dong U Dead said :
England, America, New Zealand and possibly other countries want to pass a law that people can't buy new petrol run cars or something similar to this in the next 10 years. Not all people have Driveways, parks outside their homes or even live beside a road.

There will be hundreds and thousands people that would like to buy a brand new car which will have to be electric in the near future but won't have access to a power source.

My city huge amounts of people live up huge amounts of steps to get to there home, often can't park out the front of their home. To make electric cars happen I feel they will need to make near all parking spacing with charges.

I wish the governments good luck, they are known to not think ahead on what a planned choice details to be successful. Limitations are limitations sometimes you hit your peak in technology limits/designing infrastructure when most things are already built(not easy to alter buildings/landscapes while factoring in future maintenance etc. It's like cheating on a maze puzzle and doing it backwards, what problems can happen near the end of the planning? nah no one thinks this way in todays time period except for lost souls like myself.

29-Nov-2020 04:03:41

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Here in the UK car manufacturers are banned from selling "normal" (internal combustion) cars from 2030 and from 2035 you won't even be able to buy a hybrid new, electric only.

That's all fine but I don't think anyone's taken into consideration that fact that a massive percentage of the population can't park anywhere near their home.
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29-Nov-2020 09:41:05

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Just read a very startling article, if true it turns much of the electric car myths upside-down.

Electric cars shock: Manufacturing green vehicles churns out more CO2 than making fuel models

some zero-emission vehicles have to be driven for almost 50,000 miles before they are as 'green' as cars powered by fossil fuels.[/b]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8991877/Electric-cars-shock-Manufacturing-green-vehicles-churns-CO2-making-fuel-models.html

How is the power station infrastructure going to cope with sudden surges in demand at key point in every 24 hours? My guess is it can't.
Lots of other worrying aspects to this... The rare earth metals required in all these batteries are produced by very few countries - China being one of them.
It costs more buy and more to scrap Electric vehicles that Fossil fuel vehicles.
etc. etc.

29-Nov-2020 10:42:34

Megycal
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I've had concerns about going all electric for some time now.

1/ Where will all the extra electricity that will be needed come from? The UK also wants to ban gas boilers in new build homes. They have suggested heat pumps which are usually run by electricity. This adds to the amount of electricity needed each day.

2/ Can the power supply network cope? Can the house wiring cope?

3/ In the UK there are many streets of old housing with no driveways and sometimes no on street parking outside your home. How can they charge overnight?

4/ There are many blocks of flats with not enough parking. Where will these people be able to charge their cars?

5/ Even if you have a driveway what if the household has more than one car? Can you have multiple charging points? Some may say get rid of one car but what if one adult works several miles away and the other has to travel for business including overnight stopovers? Not all places have decent public transport.

6/ At the moment there is no proper nationwide charging system for when you're away from home. You may need to sign up to several different companies with different methods of payment. They might need an app on your smartphone ( if you have one ) or a swipe card. Its a mess. The amount you pay varies hugely even when you compare current traditional fuel cost variations. The charge points tend to be in car parks so if they go wrong there is no-one near by to take action to get them repaired.

7/ Range anxiety. The manufacturers quoted ranges are nowhere close to the real world. It is always shorter unless you drive very carefully at all times and never need headlights, heat, air conditioning or wipers. While the same is true for petrol/diesel cars the distance you can travel is still far greater. Its so easy to refuel a traditional car so its not an issue..unless you don't notice the tank is almost empty. :P

29-Nov-2020 11:24:49 - Last edited on 29-Nov-2020 11:25:53 by Megycal

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