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Dong U Dead said :
England, America, New Zealand and possibly other countries want to pass a law that people can't buy new petrol run cars or something similar to this in the next 10 years. Not all people have Driveways, parks outside their homes or even live beside a road.

There will be hundreds and thousands people that would like to buy a brand new car which will have to be electric in the near future but won't have access to a power source.

My city huge amounts of people live up huge amounts of steps to get to there home, often can't park out the front of their home. To make electric cars happen I feel they will need to make near all parking spacing with charges.


Yes, you have hit the nail on the head.
I am personally lucky since I have my own off-street parking and could get a Charger installed (at our own expense). Untold thousands upon thousands of people cannot.
Not even a hint or acknowledgement from our UK Govt about how they are going to solve this issue within their own 10 year timescale.

And there are numerous other reasons why electric cars are a fine and dandy idea but not yet (if ever) actually viable - which I'm sure other people will expand upon and quite rightly so.
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29-Nov-2020 13:38:18

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Rooh said :
Here in the UK car manufacturers are banned from selling "normal" (internal combustion) cars from 2030 and from 2035 you won't even be able to buy a hybrid new, electric only.

That's all fine but I don't think anyone's taken into consideration that fact that a massive percentage of the population can't park anywhere near their home.


Don't worry we will build a massive complex that will house everyones cars after we clear all these trees and farmlands for the worlds biggest parking garages with charging units :P

FYI, monthly fees will be so high it's like buying 2 electric cars at once and may raise in price to buying 3 or 4 at once, sign here please? :D

^it won't happen don't worry, but i do question people's motives in many things. Trees do clean the air so i see no big deal, minus the issue of pumping oil out of the earth does cause something bad as it cools the earth, but i don't know for 100% sure what a layer of oil can do for the earth before the dirt, what happens when you empty it? i'm not a scientist.

29-Nov-2020 20:03:57

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Megycal said :
Ah yes. I forgot to include another big problem with electric cars...Their huge cost!
Dong is correct. It'll exclude many many people from ever being able to buy one.


Indeed, people will be people, they would never be able to enforce this for long.....electric police cars vs the gas sports cars, they can't force us to buy these. As i stated in my past posts, these cars are only to limit gas use not a full replacement.

29-Nov-2020 20:28:00

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I read somewhere the other day (I think it might have been the Top Gear website) that there are plans to install charging points on lamp posts for people who need to recharge on the street.

Again, I think this is flawed because lamp posts are so far apart on most streets that they'd only be useable by one or two cars.

Another thought... what will happen to petrol stations? Presumably some will have to continue selling petrol/diesel for quite some time, but that will slowly drop off.
Will they become charging stations? That could work if charging times are decreased.
Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

30-Nov-2020 09:26:00 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2020 09:29:30 by Rooh

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I recently read that, in the UK, the revenue from the high tax on fuel sales could be replaced by a road usage charge. This will disadvantage people in rural areas where public transport is often poor or non existant. They have no option but to drive to get to work or access services. Some places don't even have a shop to buy basic foods such as bread.
If road charging does come in I hope that there wouldn't be a double whammy for remaining petrol cars of road charges
and
fuel tax.

I don't want an electric car. If they were comparable in price to petrol ones and if I didn't need to sometimes drive well over a 100 miles in one go then I
might
consider it.
One thing, are electric cars all automatics? I assume they must be due to how they work. I prefer a manual gearbox because I don't feel in charge when I drive my husband's ( petrol ) automatic. It creeps forward as soon as you have it in drive and take your foot off the brake. I want the car to only move forward when
I
depress the accelerator. This happens with every automatic car he's had.

30-Nov-2020 10:03:54

FiFi LaFeles

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I think the UK Govt are caught in some Utopian dream where "clean", silent cars glide serenely along wide roads and smiling people stroll down shady boulevards doing their shopping, visiting their GP and such.

The reality for people who live outside city centres without the benefit of close to hand amenities and comprehensive public transport would be slogging along a narrow country lane for miles and miles without pavements or street lighting just to reach a bloody bus stop (one an hour if you're lucky) so you can get your toothache seen to. Or go to school. Then do the same on the way back.

Too bad if you can't afford an electric car and live out in the boonies. Or have missed your
3 a.m. timeslot on the public charging station.

Suck it up. The UK has met their Green target so it's all good.
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30-Nov-2020 10:26:15

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We do have a bus stop in our village but there are no buses in the evenings or at the weekend. The bus only goes to the nearest town via another large village. It takes nearly 3 times longer than driving and costs more even when allowing for fuel and parking charge for an hour. If you don't mind a short walk you can park in a supermarket car park for free for 3 hours reducing the cost of the trip even more.

Maybe vehicle emissions could be reduced if people didn't expect to get items they buy online the next day. The number of delivery miles must be huge! What's wrong with waiting a few days ( unless its a critical piece of equipment needed for you to stay alive! )
Remember when you'd have to wait for where you live to be on the delivery schedule? The stores would batch up goods to be delivered in a specific area. Imo this is a more efficient use of fuel.

30-Nov-2020 10:48:31

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Ha! Yes I do indeed remember the days when you had to wait (sometimes for weeks!) to have an item home delivered because your area was only serviced on a Thursday and all the slots were booked until ... whenever.

Some firms (without their own fleets) still do this. I had a specialist pond liner delivered in the Summer which went into a local transport hub (from the supplier up North) and it came down on their Kent run 10 days later.

We live on a small enclave of housing - only one road serving for in and out - and perched atop the hill I can see (but thankfully not hear) the jaw-dropping stream of delivery vehicles every day. Many visits every day by small vans with the same livery, be that DPD, Hermes, whomever. It would make sense for these companies to co-ordinate all the items for one area to be in one larger vehicle on the same day rather than 6 visits on the same day by 6 different vehicles. Wouldn't it .....?
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30-Nov-2020 11:07:36

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Megycal said :

ectric cars all automatics? I assume they must be due to how they work. I prefer a manual gearbox because I don't feel in charge when I drive my husband's ( petrol ) automatic. It creeps forward as soon as you have it in drive and take your foot off the brake. I want the car to only move forward when
I
depress the accelerator. This happens with every automatic car he's had.


I don't know how an electric car behaves in this situation but my guess is that it won't I can't say for certain, I haven't driven one) as the pedal is essentially an on/off switch... well more like a dimmer switch.

I know Joel just bought an electric car, maybe ask him if you spot him.
I'll see if I can lure him here later :P
Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

30-Nov-2020 12:18:00 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2020 12:21:29 by Rooh

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