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559cc said :
Archaeox said :
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What Joel said.

Although it looks like Pete Buttigieg did quite well in the Iowa caucus, so maybe there's hope after all.


u really think a democrat has a chance with their socialist policy agenda lmao, and shipping more jobs over seas and raising taxes .

what world do u live in?

A world where 'socialist' ideas actually poll really well among the vast majority of Americans! Thus why people like Bernie and Elizabeth have done way better (despite receiving no corporate donations) in their campaigns than the media would like to portray.

So yes, Democrats, providing they do not run with a boring 'keep the status quo' candidate (e.g Biden) have an amazing chance at winning.

When Bernie and Elizabeth talk about raising taxes, they're referring to the top 1% of the country to benefit the bottom 99% and would be about time, considering how for decades it's all been about wealth re-distribution to the most wealthy.

Trump's tax cuts; he did a good job of marketing that as tax cuts for the middle & working class - In reality, the middle & working class got pennies compared to what corporations and the most wealthy in the country received.
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05-Feb-2020 16:04:50

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@Sumo
ScoMo is a ****ing joke.
What the heck is with forcing bushfire victims to shake is hand????????????????
Literally physically grabbing their hand if they left him hanging????????????????
Was never in touch, completely out of touch, should have stayed in Hawaii.


I only shake hands when making a deal. Like when money exchanges hands. I don't normally shake hands with people just to say hello, or goodbye - unless we've had an awesome day like... "fuck yea! Good job! Well done!" But even then, I'd rather crack a beer and say cheers! I don't need a hand shake to say hello ever.

I console people with a hug. And ensure them I am there for them.

I don't know what scomo was trying to do except photo ops. Why did he need to bring a camera crew with him, to photograph very upset people? He didn't need a camera. If I were a victim of the fires, and scomo tried to shake my hand "closing the deal" without helping or offering me a thing, I might well have punched him in the face and said "No deal!".
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05-Feb-2020 17:51:52

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559cc said :
Archaeox said :
^
What Joel said.

Although it looks like Pete Buttigieg did quite well in the Iowa caucus, so maybe there's hope after all.


u really think a democrat has a chance with their socialist policy agenda lmao, and shipping more jobs over seas and raising taxes .

what world do u live in?
I mean, policies that help people generally do quite well in other countries...
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05-Feb-2020 22:58:02

559cc

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Joel said :
559cc said :
Archaeox said :
^
What Joel said.

Although it looks like Pete Buttigieg did quite well in the Iowa caucus, so maybe there's hope after all.


u really think a democrat has a chance with their socialist policy agenda lmao, and shipping more jobs over seas and raising taxes .

what world do u live in?

A world where 'socialist' ideas actually poll really well among the vast majority of Americans! Thus why people like Bernie and Elizabeth have done way better (despite receiving no corporate donations) in their campaigns than the media would like to portray.

So yes, Democrats, providing they do not run with a boring 'keep the status quo' candidate (e.g Biden) have an amazing chance at winning.

When Bernie and Elizabeth talk about raising taxes, they're referring to the top 1% of the country to benefit the bottom 99% and would be about time, considering how for decades it's all been about wealth re-distribution to the most wealthy.

Trump's tax cuts; he did a good job of marketing that as tax cuts for the middle & working class - In reality, the middle & working class got pennies compared to what corporations and the most wealthy in the country received.


that's a lie man , its already came out again and again how the democrats wants to raises everyone's taxes to pay for these new social programs man .

Elizabeth warren has lied about so many petty things including being Indian to get into college lol so I cant take any thing u say seriously .

and when u say trump tax cuts didn't do anything is another lie , u can literally go look at tax rate charts from 2016 and compare to 2019, if u look at 2020 the tax rates for the middle class are dropping another 1-2% .

and im sorry to inform u that 100 people voting in a poll don't represent 300 million Americans . i thought democrats were the high IQ voter....

06-Feb-2020 07:46:54

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559cc said :
that's a lie man , its already came out again and again how the democrats wants to raises everyone's taxes to pay for these new social programs man
https://www.bernietax.com/
The tax rate doesn't increase until you make over 250k (in comparison to current rates). And let's be real, you clearly aren't making more than 250k.
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06-Feb-2020 08:13:17

559cc

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Jakey Boy said :
559cc said :
Archaeox said :
^
What Joel said.

Although it looks like Pete Buttigieg did quite well in the Iowa caucus, so maybe there's hope after all.


u really think a democrat has a chance with their socialist policy agenda lmao, and shipping more jobs over seas and raising taxes .

what world do u live in?
I mean, policies that help people generally do quite well in other countries...


Americans on average take home 10k more dollars then every nation on earth.

theres no way u can convince me that people in Europe do quite well when u can go to prison for self defence like someone breaking in ur house and u killing him that's kinda crazy man .

Americans choose to go into debt to fund there life style instead of saving money aka building wealth in there mid 25s-30s-40s . because of poor life choices like having a lot of kids when ur not making any money.

its simple math , 250k-800k saved/invested by the time ur 45 can grow into millions from compound interest alone . u could retire early , u pay no tax on capital gains if u withdraw under 40k a year .

countless stories of people spending 50-60% of there take home pay on rent/mortgage/cars/credit cards before living expenses. since most American households take home less then 50k a year ur gunna struggle .

if u own ur own home/car that's a extra 13-20k a year u can save =) , so hey pretend all u want that Americans have it bad lol , its a myth man.

06-Feb-2020 08:24:57 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2020 08:27:40 by 559cc

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Jakey Boy said :
559cc said :
that's a lie man , its already came out again and again how the democrats wants to raises everyone's taxes to pay for these new social programs man
https://www.bernietax.com/
The tax rate doesn't increase until you make over 250k (in comparison to current rates). And let's be real, you clearly aren't making more than 250k.


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has been one of the strongest supporters and advocates of Medicare for All. After all, he wrote the original bill for the system. While some of the other 2020 Democrats have said they wouldn't raise taxes on average families, Sanders has been upfront and honest that taxes would need to be raised in order to pay for this new system. But he has argued those tax increases would actually cost Americans less in the long run.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/11/25/bernie-proved-he-plans-to-raise-taxes-on-middle-and-low-income-workers-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all-n2557051


i cant take u seriously man lol

the American government takes in 3.2 trillion in revenue and borrows around 500-1 trillion a year for a total of 4 trillion a year . in the next 7-10 years the American government will take in 4 trillion in tax revenue and probably be borrowing that extra 400-1 trillion each year lol.

and u wanna give the government more trillions when they cant even balance the budget for 5-10 years to stop borrowing money and actually pay back the debt to increase the value of the dollar .

fun fact: most incomes over 100k are two income households so ur right the odds of me making 250k are slim already.

no point in talking about personal incomes because ur jealous of high income people and we all lie about how much we make =)

06-Feb-2020 08:57:41

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559cc said :
Jakey Boy said :
559cc said :
that's a lie man , its already came out again and again how the democrats wants to raises everyone's taxes to pay for these new social programs man
https://www.bernietax.com/
The tax rate doesn't increase until you make over 250k (in comparison to current rates). And let's be real, you clearly aren't making more than 250k.


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has been one of the strongest supporters and advocates of Medicare for All. After all, he wrote the original bill for the system. While some of the other 2020 Democrats have said they wouldn't raise taxes on average families, Sanders has been upfront and honest that taxes would need to be raised in order to pay for this new system. But he has argued those tax increases would actually cost Americans less in the long run.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/11/25/bernie-proved-he-plans-to-raise-taxes-on-middle-and-low-income-workers-to-pay-for-medicare-for-all-n2557051


i cant take u seriously man lol

the American government takes in 3.2 trillion in revenue and borrows around 500-1 trillion a year for a total of 4 trillion a year . in the next 7-10 years the American government will take in 4 trillion in tax revenue and probably be borrowing that extra 400-1 trillion each year lol.

and u wanna give the government more trillions when they cant even balance the budget for 5-10 years to stop borrowing money and actually pay back the debt to increase the value of the dollar .

fun fact: most incomes over 100k are two income households so ur right the odds of me making 250k are slim already.

no point in talking about personal incomes because ur jealous of high income people and we all lie about how much we make =)
Not sure if you posted townhall as a joke, knowing it's not credible? Why would I be jealous of people like myself? You don't make sense lol.
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06-Feb-2020 09:55:23 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2020 10:34:21 by Jakey Boy

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559cc said :
Elizabeth warren has lied about so many petty things including being Indian to get into college lol so I cant take any thing u say seriously .

While this is true, let's not forget that Donald Trump lies constantly (with 5276 lies as president recorded by the Toronto Star, even before they gave up counting in May 2019 -
https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/
)
By your own standard, we should therefore not take anything he says seriously, either.
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06-Feb-2020 11:54:56 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2020 11:58:43 by Archaeox

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