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C a z said :
NexOrigin said :
C a z said :
NexOrigin said :
C a z said :
NexOrigin said :
I'm not sure how to interpret this:
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Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, there has been a significant disruption to recruitment activity within the NHS. This is apparent from the significantly lower reported advertised vacancies between March and June 2020 as the NHS was fully focused on dealing with the pandemic. Whilst pressures of the pandemic eased somewhat over the summer months, it is still apparent from the data that recruitment activity for the NHS remains disrupted.

https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/publications/statistical/nhs-vacancies-survey/april-2015---september-2020

If they were reporting less vacancies in NHS positions... doesn't that mean... there were more doctors and nurses being recruited?

NO! it means they were to busy dealing with patients to be able to try and recruit more staff Are you assuming that nurses and doctors are responsible for hiring new staff? That... doesn't seem accurate. I'm pretty sure the management deals with it, not the people dealing with patients.

Are you assuming management dont deal with a full spectrum of issues? I'm sure they do, but, I'm pretty sure the management aren't dealing patients. Their job is to manage, not be doctors or nurses. They hire people to be doctors and nurses.

Yes, and at the moment they are trying to spread all the staff they have rather than focus on recruiting new staff.... Well that seems counter productive. If you're having a staff shortage, the focus should be on recruiting new staff, not focusing on... what is it that you think they're focusing on? Spreading the staff? What does that even mean? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

31-Dec-2020 01:26:38

C a z said :
People can only spread themselves so far.

Dealing with issues right now has to be put first before focusing to the future Okay? But, what is it that you think the management is so busy doing "spreading the staff" that they don't have time to recruit new staff?

Do doctors and nurses require their hands to be held during the pandemic? Is that what the management is doing? Like, what specifically do you believe that the management is doing while "spreading the staff" that requires all of their attention, leaving no time for recruiting new staff? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

31-Dec-2020 01:29:21

You're the one claiming to have the answers, I'm just the one asking the questions.

If you don't actually have the answers, then why pretend to know the answers?

And if you DO have the answers, then why are you getting upset that I'm asking the questions? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

31-Dec-2020 01:34:32

C a z said :
Full quote that nex chose not to include Okay?

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This is the latest compendium publication in the NHS Vacancy Statistics series containing vacancy related data for the NHS.

Data from Trac Recruitment Management Software (Trac) has been incorporated into the series which increases the intelligence provided and further enhances the compendium nature of the publication.

The figures included in this series therefore now provide four different views on recruitment information for the NHS.

Data from NHS Jobs, the Electronic Staff Record (ESR) and Trac provide a range of proxy data sources for NHS vacancies. The series also includes management information related to vacancies within the NHS which have been collected by NHS England and NHS Improvement. Due to the complex nature of how NHS vacancy data is defined and collected, all data sources should be treated with a degree of caution.

NHS Digital look forward to developing the compendium publication further for future iterations of the series and remain committed to providing the best, most accurate and useful information possible to support the NHS and to serve the public good.

To help with the development of this publication, feedback is continually welcomed and can be sent to: [email protected] with the subject heading ‘NHS Vacancy Statistics publication feedback’.

Even more full quote that CAZ chose not to include.

amidoingitrite?




Was there a purpose to including more of the "quote" other than "that nex chose not to include"?

Are you planning on explaining something related to the rest of the "quote"? Do you somehow believe the rest of the "quote" changes the questions I've asked, or the answers you've given (or not given)? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

31-Dec-2020 01:57:20 - Last edited on 31-Dec-2020 01:57:48 by NexOrigin

Perhaps you're arguing with me, but I'm not arguing with you, or most other people here. I'm simply having a discussion, providing information, and asking questions.

Did you come here to fight with me? Is that it? Do I have to tell Corugi that you're here trying to fight with me instead of folding towels that aren't for sale? Hmmm?


Can you at least explain what the point of you stating "Full quote that nex chose not to include"?

What in the rest of the quote provides additional details to the discussion that you want everyone to take note of?

Is it the "

critical recruitment increased in response to the situation

" part? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

31-Dec-2020 02:08:30