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NexOrigin

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FiFi LaFeles said :
And Nex ....shovel differentiation on the basis of colour sounds a bit racist to me :P
OMG. :O LOL :D

Ya, I totally don't understand how they were deciding... I mean, this small axe... essential... this larger axe, not essential... summer items, such as gardening tools... essential... even though it's snowing now...

But, ummm... if you live in the countryside, having a large axe might be essential, especially if you're heating your home with firewood.

Of course, none of that really matters... since you can just have someone else carry it outside to the curb for you by ordering curbside delivery from inside the store, and somehow that stops the virus.
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21-Dec-2020 23:35:24

2_Tron

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NexOrigin said :
2_Tron said :
The transport embargo is a totally wrong approach. If they make sure truckers stay foot in their vehicle nobody will get infected.
Big roll-on & roll-off platforms, like a huge parkinglot, truckers can easily deliver their truckloads.
Just the transport of goods only, ... why not? :|

Let the army escort the transport vehicles throughout the land so shops will get their goods.
Can't the truckers just... ummm... wear a mask?

Like, they claim masks stop the spread, so, why can't the truckers just wear masks?

Unless... masks don't actually work?


There's no consistency or logic in these kinds of regulations and orders.
Masks do little to nothing if you haven't the right ones, and 98% of the people have not the right one so you may dismiss masks as a helpful tool.

22-Dec-2020 11:02:37

Tenebri
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2_Tron said :
NexOrigin said :
2_Tron said :
The transport embargo is a totally wrong approach. If they make sure truckers stay foot in their vehicle nobody will get infected.
Big roll-on & roll-off platforms, like a huge parkinglot, truckers can easily deliver their truckloads.
Just the transport of goods only, ... why not? :|

Let the army escort the transport vehicles throughout the land so shops will get their goods.
Can't the truckers just... ummm... wear a mask?

Like, they claim masks stop the spread, so, why can't the truckers just wear masks?

Unless... masks don't actually work?


There's no consistency or logic in these kinds of regulations and orders.
Masks do little to nothing if you haven't the right ones, and 98% of the people have not the right one so you may dismiss masks as a helpful tool.


masks are helpful, but they arent the be all and end all. they help reduce the amount being spread but doesnt stop it 100%.
like wearing gloves they help with not being cold but youll also need a coat and hat to help even more.

the "CaN't ThEy JuSt WhErE a MaSk" hurdurdurdur just shows the lack of understanding. no one has said masks are the only thing to stop the spread. they help stop the spread they dont stop it 100%... and thats way of thinking that silly.

still wear a mask they are helpful they work. but other measures do need to take place too.

the anti maskers use that "cant they just where a mask" as a way to be like "see masks are pointless" when it just shows lack of understanding or just purposely giving out disinformation.

wear a mask they help... but obviously got to wear it correctly which is where a big issue is when wearing a mask.

but yes they do help but its not full protection, otherwise nurses and doctors on front line would only wear a mask they dont just wear a mask they wear a lot more to
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22-Dec-2020 11:14:32 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2020 11:19:17 by Tenebri

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Tenebri said :
... masks are helpful, but they arent the be all and end all. they help reduce the amount being spread but doesnt stop it 100%.
like wearing gloves they help with not being cold but youll also need a coat and hat to help even more.

the "CaN't ThEy JuSt WhErE a MaSk" hurdurdurdur just shows the lack of understanding. no one has said masks are the only thing to stop the spread. they help stop the spread they dont stop it 100%... and thats way of thinking that silly.

still wear a mask they are helpful they work. but other measures do need to take place too.

the anti maskers use that "cant they just where a mask" as a way to be like "see masks are pointless" when it just shows lack of understanding or just purposely giving out disinformation.

wear a mask they help... but obviously got to wear it correctly which is where a big issue is when wearing a mask.

but yes they do help but its not full protection, otherwise nurses and doctors on front lin
In the first period of Covid-19 98% of the worlds population weren't wearing masks at all so basically to what is believed right now half of the worlds population would have been dead right now ... but that hasn't happened as we can witness. ;)

I wear a mask when I have to to not make others feel victim of law enforcement, nothing else.
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22-Dec-2020 15:04:32

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I just got a package delivery at my door. The guy delivering the package didn't wear a mask, neither was I, he didn't wear protected gloves, neither was I.
He handed over the package and I took it in my hands thanking him for his delivery work. :)
I have more deliveries at my door.

I still live and so are the people I have met during the last year and I am not going to die nor will others I have contacted.
More people will die because hospitals are closed for regular treatment & surgery.

After haven gotten a vaccin ... covid-19 isn't over and will not be over for a long time, probably will take 2 to 3 years or more.
Covid-19 will mutate in more variants and other different virusses, ... so good luck with that. ;)

22-Dec-2020 15:22:33

FiFi LaFeles

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2_Tron said :
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I still live and so are the people I have met during the last year and I am not going to die nor will others I have contacted.
More people will die because hospitals are closed for regular treatment & surgery.

After haven gotten a vaccin ... covid-19 isn't over and will not be over for a long time, probably will take 2 to 3 years or more.
Covid-19 will mutate in more variants and other different virusses, ... so good luck with that. ;)


And how do you know that? How do you know that you are not asymptomatic and have passed your germs on to a total stranger somewhere and they have subsequently died due to getting your germs?

You don't know of course. So don't talk crap.

Yeah, we get your point. You don't think masks work and you don't think a vaccine will do much good. That's fine ... don't get the vaccine, just take your chances. Good luck with that, hope you keep dodging the bullets. So glad you're alright Jack ... Lnk.

Incidentally, Covid will indeed probably continue to mutate into variants but it won't turn into 'different virusses' *rolls eyes*
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22-Dec-2020 16:31:58

NexOrigin

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FiFi LaFeles said :
And how do you know that? How do you know that you are not asymptomatic and have passed your germs on to a total stranger somewhere and they have subsequently died due to getting your germs?
Because they do contact tracing in most places. If they know you were in contact with someone who was infected, you will be notified at the very least, and you'll probably be put under quarantine orders... along with everyone else that the delivery guy handed packages to. The delivery guy has a list of deliveries and everyone on that list would be quarantined.

Tenebri said :
but yes they do help but its not full protection, otherwise nurses and doctors on front line would only wear a mask they dont just wear a mask they wear a lot more to
Oh, I see. That makes sense. And obviously truckers can't wear full protection like front line workers do... because... wait... why can't they wear the same thing?

2_Tron said :
More people will die because hospitals are closed for regular treatment & surgery.
Many people don't realize how much of a problem that actually has become. The number of cancer deaths has gone up in 2020 due hospitals shutting down cancer screening, chemotherapy, etc. People are afraid to go to the hospitals, and some end up dying as a result of not addressing their health concerns, over fear of contracting the virus while at the hospital.

Miles Prower said :
If everyone complied we would be in a healthier situation. Nothing is 100% effective but every little helps. It would also be helpful if there wasn't a super-spreader "MAH FREEDOM" protest held in London every week.
If they are "super-spreader" events... then can you explain how they happen every week? Shouldn't all the protesters be dead by now?
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22-Dec-2020 17:49:14

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FiFi LaFeles said :
... And how do you know that? How do you know that you are not asymptomatic and have passed your germs on to a total stranger somewhere and they have subsequently died due to getting your germs?

You don't know of course. So don't talk crap.

Yeah, we get your point. You don't think masks work and you don't think a vaccine will do much good. That's fine ... don't get the vaccine, just take your chances. Good luck with that, hope you keep dodging the bullets. So glad you're alright Jack ... Lnk.

Incidentally, Covid will indeed probably continue to mutate into variants but it won't turn into 'different virusses' *rolls eyes*
I keep a close watch to my surroundings, the people I meet daily, and so far everything is OK.
All my life I haven't done any different when it came to virusses and never ever treated it any different as with covid-19 right now, living a healthy balanced life doing the good things necessary and leaving the bad things behind me.

You missed the point, roughly 2% of masks do work because they are highly proffesional, the rest are selfmate or massproduced masks to make a lot of money but fail the proffesional authentication of being a good mask.

About the vaccin, while I am still healthy and feeling OK why should I put my money on a vaccin of which nobody knows the true end-result/effects? 'Lab results say' but we have to wait a lot more years to notice what the 'real-life results' will display proving it to be protective enough or not.
Should I now become so insecure about my lifestyle because there's covid-19? Covid-19 and other variants already exist over 40 years so why should I be scared right now?
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but that doesn't mean that now, all of a sudden, I have to act upon someone else's opinion because someone else says so. :)
You deal with it your way as I will deal with it my way. ;)

22-Dec-2020 20:04:26

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