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2_Tron
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How easy the western world have bought themselves huge loads of vaccins, more than they need to, and leaving third world countries with empty hands. How easy it is to nurture our selfishness. If 3rd world countries have not secured vaccine trade agreements, well, that's the fault of their own governments. It's not the responsibility of individual countries to arrange purchase agreements for other countries. For countries that don't have suitable governments for making such trade agreements, the World Health Organization is there to assist them.
I think you're confusing the purchase agreements with actual distribution of the vaccines at this point.
No country has obtained more vaccines than they need at this point. There isn't enough vaccines for any Western country to do that (other than countries with very small populations). I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
How easy the western world have bought themselves huge loads of vaccins, more than they need to, and leaving third world countries with empty hands. How easy it is to nurture our selfishness. If 3rd world countries have not secured vaccine trade agreements, well, that's the fault of their own governments. It's not the responsibility of individual countries to arrange purchase agreements for other countries. For countries that don't have suitable governments for making such trade agreements, the World Health Organization is there to assist them.
I think you're confusing the purchase agreements with actual distribution of the vaccines at this point.
No country has obtained more vaccines than they need at this point. There isn't enough vaccines for any Western country to do that (other than countries with very small populations). I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
22-Dec-2020 20:43:23
At least New York is allowing outdoor dining at restaurants.
You know, because people want to sit outside in the cold and snow to eat dinner.
NYC Restaurant Owners Hope Diners Are Willing To Take On Bitter Blast
Snow-side dining in New York City
You know, because people want to sit outside in the cold and snow to eat dinner.
NYC Restaurant Owners Hope Diners Are Willing To Take On Bitter Blast
https://youtu.be/M0JMw0CF4ds
Snow-side dining in New York City
https://youtu.be/NzAzqR0Tc0U
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
23-Dec-2020 12:55:15
If 3rd world countries didn't want to be 3rd world countries, they should have allied during Cold War. They didn't pick a side. How is that anyone else's fault?
And what makes you think that 3rd world countries have nothing to offer? India has the 5th highest GDP in the world. You mentioned Nigeria. They're 26th on the top GDP list, out of almost 200 countries. Mexico is 15th.
What makes you think these countries have nothing to offer?
And what makes you think these countries don't have "knowledge / skills / knowhow"?
Some might find that a bit offensive.
The WHO isn't run by "western people". It's run by globalists. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
And what makes you think that 3rd world countries have nothing to offer? India has the 5th highest GDP in the world. You mentioned Nigeria. They're 26th on the top GDP list, out of almost 200 countries. Mexico is 15th.
What makes you think these countries have nothing to offer?
And what makes you think these countries don't have "knowledge / skills / knowhow"?
Some might find that a bit offensive.
The WHO isn't run by "western people". It's run by globalists. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
23-Dec-2020 13:45:11
When it comes to 'health' ... why do others who have no knowledge / skills / knowhow / money have to offer something in return?
So basically you live for a profit and if you are faster you seem to wager onto someone's health-care/death if they won't have something worthwhile to offer for you.
... OK.
So basically you live for a profit and if you are faster you seem to wager onto someone's health-care/death if they won't have something worthwhile to offer for you.
... OK.
23-Dec-2020 13:51:11
2_Tron
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When it comes to 'health' ... why do others who have no knowledge / skills / knowhow / money have to offer something in return?
Do you know what it costs for a measles vaccine in a 3rd world country?
$0.25 - and that includes the syringe.
Do you know what it costs for a measles vaccine in America?
Between $80.00 and $100.00.
The cost of a vaccination in America is upwards of 400x the cost of a vaccine in a 3rd world country... why do Americans have to pay 400x as much as other countries?
2_Tron said :
So basically you live for a profit and if you are faster you seem to wager onto someone's health-care/death if they won't have something worthwhile to offer for you.
... OK. I have no idea what you're saying. Can you rephrase that please?
2_Tron said :
Western companies, a lot of them, have moved their factories to 3rd-world countries making it as if those 3rd-world countries have something to offer, where the one thing that they do have to offer is their health-care being accessory to cheap-labor being exploited by western companies for a nice profit, 3rd-world countries getting nothing in return.
GDP doesn't say anything usefull. They get employment that they otherwise wouldn't have at all. That's not nothing. That's food, and clothing, and medicine they can buy.
You call it "exploitation" and yet, they're providing jobs that the government and companies of that country cannot provide. Sure, they don't get paid as much as in America, but, it costs more money to live in America.
$0.25 vaccine vs. $100 vaccine. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
When it comes to 'health' ... why do others who have no knowledge / skills / knowhow / money have to offer something in return?
Do you know what it costs for a measles vaccine in a 3rd world country?
$0.25 - and that includes the syringe.
https://www.who.int/mediacentre/background/2003/back5/en/
Do you know what it costs for a measles vaccine in America?
Between $80.00 and $100.00.
https://wellbeing.humboldt.edu/sites/default/files/health/PublicHealth-vaccination-pricelist.pdf
https://www.goodrx.com/vaccinations
https://www.luther.edu/health-service/on-campus/immunizations/price/
The cost of a vaccination in America is upwards of 400x the cost of a vaccine in a 3rd world country... why do Americans have to pay 400x as much as other countries?
2_Tron said :
So basically you live for a profit and if you are faster you seem to wager onto someone's health-care/death if they won't have something worthwhile to offer for you.
... OK. I have no idea what you're saying. Can you rephrase that please?
2_Tron said :
Western companies, a lot of them, have moved their factories to 3rd-world countries making it as if those 3rd-world countries have something to offer, where the one thing that they do have to offer is their health-care being accessory to cheap-labor being exploited by western companies for a nice profit, 3rd-world countries getting nothing in return.
GDP doesn't say anything usefull. They get employment that they otherwise wouldn't have at all. That's not nothing. That's food, and clothing, and medicine they can buy.
You call it "exploitation" and yet, they're providing jobs that the government and companies of that country cannot provide. Sure, they don't get paid as much as in America, but, it costs more money to live in America.
$0.25 vaccine vs. $100 vaccine. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
23-Dec-2020 15:47:04
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