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NexOrigin

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Tuffty said :
Firstly lets not start a mass panic with people who may or may not be scared of injections. They are not that bad and remember these injections could save your life. So please put them fears aside. I know.
If someone is afraid of getting an injection, they probably shouldn't get a covid vaccine needle. I don't see what the issue is. Maybe... you know... you get a non-injected vaccine, like the one Regeneron is developing...

Now, if people are fainting after getting certain covid injections, isn't it important to know which vaccines they are, and why the person fainted? Or is that not important?


Tuffty said :
Removed 2 more posts for showing something thats disgusting. Not really anything to do with this thread other then showing and using a mask for something it was not designed for. It was also sick really.
Yeah, that was the whole point. That's not normal behavior, is it? People are going nuts. How long do you think people will need to be locked down before they all lose their minds entirely, and start doing things like that?

P.S. If you're an animal owner, you've smelled and picked up poop countless times. Don't be so immature about it. :P

Miles Prower said :
You know full well that wasn't what was meant by my post, please do not twist my words.

Bottom line: don't be selfish, wear a mask, help save lives.

Finito.
Yeah, you thought you were disproving something, meanwhile, you were actually proving the opposite, weren't you? Hmmm?

I mean, if mask mandates worked... well, go ahead, you just explain to me how those mask mandates worked in those countries. Go ahead.
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19-Dec-2020 15:35:01 - Last edited on 23-Dec-2020 00:16:28 by NexOrigin

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Tenebri said :
NexOrigin said :
Tenebri said :
im still going to work (barber)
Shaves too? Or just haircuts?


Personally i do not do shaves. However i have seen a few other shops i walk past do them

I tidy up side burns so it matches the haircut by pulling down the string/ elastic of the mask so i can get to it. But they keep it on whole time
Are you allowed to do shaves in tier 3?

Here, right now, I'm pretty sure you're allowed to get a shave, and the restrictions still allow you to remove your mask for the procedure (and any other service that requires a face to be uncovered). Of course, you still can't sit inside and eat at a restaurant, because that's when you're not paying attention and the virus will get you... or something like that. O_o
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19-Dec-2020 15:39:37

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Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817


So that was the study... and here's the "fact check":

Danish Study Doesn’t Prove Masks Don’t Work Against the Coronavirus
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/danish-study-doesnt-prove-masks-dont-work-against-the-coronavirus/


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Q: Did a recent study in Denmark show that face masks are useless for COVID-19?

A: No. The study found that face masks did not have a large protective effect for wearers — not that masks provide no protection at all or don’t offer benefits to others.


Lol.

Gotta love fact checkers. They pick a claim that they know they can "fact check" as false... while at the same time, presenting the same evidence that masks don't really provide any substantial protection... but the claim is false... because they're "slightly" effective and the claim is that they don't work at all.

Like, they can't just come out and say "masks really don't provide any substantial protection"... because then people might realize that masks... don't provide any substantial protection. So they have to frame the question as "are they useless" and the answer as "no, they're not useless (they're almost useless)" so that they can state that the claim that masks are useless is false.

^_^
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19-Dec-2020 16:35:34

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Coronavirus: Why masks don't work
Quebec's public health director and medical experts say they can do more harm than good.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/coronavirus-why-masks-dont-work


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EDITOR’S NOTE: This story was published March 19, 2020. The Quebec government subsequently mandated masks in all indoor public spaces and when physical distancing of two metres cannot be maintained.


Weird eh? So, even though the actual public health director stated that masks don't really help, and can do more harm than good... Quebec still went ahead and mandated masks.

Just listen to the officials... don't listen to the officials... masks work... masks don't work...

O_o


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Why masks don’t work

The coronavirus is spread through tiny microdroplets emitted through coughs and sneezes that float through the air, or rest on surfaces and can remain infectious for several days. Standard flat surgical masks don’t give full coverage, so very small droplets suspended in the air can still get through.
If a person’s hand has come in contact with the virus, and they touch their mask to adjust it in the vicinity of their eyes, nose and mouth, it can transmit the disease.
Masks get saturated with moisture from the mouth and nose after about 20 minutes. Once they’re wet, they no longer form a barrier against viruses trying to come through or exit.

Those reasons still exist. It's not like any of those issues have been addressed at all. It's not like some new kind of mask has been released that prevents those issues. So how are they more effective now, than they were in march? Nothing has changed, yet, people are just ignoring the facts that were presented beforehand.
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19-Dec-2020 16:52:12

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Tenebri said :
Possible 3rd lockdown for uk looming. And boris to give speach later today


I'm expecting announcement of another national 'lockdown' towards the end of December or early January, but the latest news conference is definitely laying the ground for it. I'd like to say there is finally acknowledgement of the virus spreading over Christmas, but I don't believe the reduction from five days to one day for household mixing will make much difference.
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19-Dec-2020 16:53:04

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This is interesting:

Low pH Hypromellose (Taffix™) nasal powder spray reduced SARS-CoV-2 infection rate post mass-gathering event at a highly endemic community: An observational prospective open label user survey
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346582678_Low_pH_Hypromellose_Taffix_nasal_powder_spray_reduced_SARS-CoV-2_infection_rate_post_mass-gathering_event_at_a_highly_endemic_community_An_observational_prospective_open_label_user_survey


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Taffix - is an innovative nasal powder inhaler that creates a protective gel layer over the nasal mucosa and effectively blocks viruses from infecting the nasal cells. Taffix is approved for use in Europe and Israel. In vitro studies demonstrated that Taffix blocks viruses (including SARS- CoV-2) from infecting human cells (<99% ).



Interesting. It's like a liquid rubber glove for your nose.
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19-Dec-2020 16:55:42

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Tuffty said :
So lets keep to the facts and not scare people and try instead to encourage everyone to take up the vaccine when offered as it will save lives in the end according to the medical staff.
How about no? How about we let people make their own decisions, based on the evidence that they have seen?

Imagine how bad you would feel, sitting here encouraging people to take some unknown injection, only to find out later on that some of them died from serious complications due to the side affects.

Let people make their own decisions. You don't need to encourage or discourage anyone. Simply present what evidence you have, and let the people make their own choices.

And... ummm... as per my previous post... the "according to the medical staff" doesn't really hold much weight these days, does it? I mean, the medical staff told us not to wear masks... the medical staff said masks don't work... then the medical staff demanded people wear masks...

The whole "argument from authority" is a fallacy. Just because someone in a certain position of authority says something, doesn't mean it's true, or that it's the proper thing to follow.

No matter how many times people say "just listen to the experts"... I can respond back in kind with numerous examples of the "experts" being wrong, or outright lying.

This notion that people simply need to step in line, like good little sheep, and do as they're ordered to do without asking any questions... because "experts"... is absurd.

The experts lied. People died. Don't just accept what "experts" claim or demand from you, without doing your own due diligence and doing your own research, because, well, they've been caught lying to you, over and over.
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19-Dec-2020 17:05:55

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Miles Prower said :
Tenebri said :
Possible 3rd lockdown for uk looming. And boris to give speach later today


I'm expecting announcement of another national 'lockdown' towards the end of December or early January, but the latest news conference is definitely laying the ground for it. I'd like to say there is finally acknowledgement of the virus spreading over Christmas, but I don't believe the reduction from five days to one day for household mixing will make much difference.


indeed

well im now in tier 4, so which is same rules as lockdown.
and yeah i agree the 5 days to 1 isnt going to do much its still mixing.
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19-Dec-2020 17:19:51

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NexOrigin said :


And... ummm... as per my previous post... the "according to the medical staff" doesn't really hold much weight these days, does it? I mean, the medical staff told us not to wear masks... the medical staff said masks don't work... then the medical staff demanded people wear masks...
.


yes because of new evidence. when new evidence arises its best to follow it. so there is going to be things like this that happen.

when new evidence says to change, guess what its best to change. they got it wrong and corrected themselves. thats the best thing to do.

so to discredit them just because they have changed their mind is ludicrous and irrational.
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