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NexOrigin

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FiFi LaFeles said :
Dr Fauci now actually recommends masking (albeit double) https://www.cnet.com/health/double-masking-for-covid-19-why-fauci-recommends-wearing-two-masks-at-once/

Similarly the WHO recommend them
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-masks

And the CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html

Also the Surgeon General
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-surgeon-general-jerome-adams-wearing-masks-face-the-nation/

^ He says, and this seems to me to be pretty relevant to the volte-face displayed by many 'experts':

"The surgeon general said the shift in guidance to the American people is attributed to a better understanding of the coronavirus and how it spreads."
And here they all are, saying the exact opposite, telling people NOT to wear masks, and that masks DON'T stop the spread:
NexOrigin said :
Triple Masks? Seriously?!?
https://youtu.be/1ZM9QOZg8uM
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01-Feb-2021 03:00:56

NexOrigin

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Joel said :
NexOrigin said :
It's like when people complain that others aren't wearing their mask over their nose. Covering your nose with a mask provides no additional protection to anyone, unless your nose is really runny and spraying droplets everywhere, but, if that's the case, you probably have a cold and should stay home.
What? How is that at all accurate?

You can breathe in and out of your nose in addition to your mouth so not covering your nose isn't great. If you're going to wear a mask or face-covering, it should be both your mouth and nose, the two locations you can expel your breath...

And as a side note, most people will have a runny nose when enough time is spent outside in cold weather, without having a cold.
Unless your nose is runny, what do you think covering your nose is actually accomplishing? The mask is only there to try and stop moisture droplets. If your nose isn't runny, what is the mask supposed to be stopping? Aerosolized vapors? We already know that cloth/surgical masks don't stop aersolized vapors, so what is it that you're attempting to stop by having your mask over your nose? What are you attempting to block?
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01-Feb-2021 03:10:54

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FiFi LaFeles said :
Bear in mind 'experts' don't always get it right first time.
The science never changed. The narrative did. The science is still exactly the same as it was a year ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, and even 20 years ago. It's the same science. It never changed at all. The only thing that changed was the narrative. They're not pushing science, they're pushing a narrative.
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01-Feb-2021 03:11:52 - Last edited on 01-Feb-2021 03:13:13 by NexOrigin

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FiFi LaFeles said :
So what are you saying - don't bother to cover nose & mouth at all? It's entirely useless?
I'll give you the same advice I've been giving this whole time. If you're in a high risk category and you're serious about protecting yourself, then get yourself a box of properly fitting N95 (or equivalent) masks.

Don't forget, your eyes are also an entry way into the body for the virus, so don't forget to protect them as well.

Don't count on others around you to be your protection, as most of them are only wearing cloth masks. If you're in a high risk category, you need to forget about "wear a cloth mask to protect others" and wear a proper mask (ex. N95) and protect yourself.
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01-Feb-2021 03:39:27

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A leading data modeller says the different ways people’s bodies react to contracting Covid-19 may be why the Pullman Hotel cases don’t appear to have spread the virus to their close contacts.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/shaun-hendy-s-analysis-why-pullman-cases-don-t-appear-have-spread-covid-19

* So at this stage the upper North Island of NZ is very lucky to have no additional community cases. I'm so pleased.
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01-Feb-2021 05:03:00

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ToP BaSS said :
No conventional fabric face mask creates a 'seal on the face'.

It may not seal the face, however having the mask on will still give you a % of protection, as one of my previous posts points out via an article, huge benefits can be had by wearing one or more mask. The type of masks help too.
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01-Feb-2021 05:07:51

Dong U Dead

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NexOrigin said :
P.S. The above response is not directed at you Dong, but rather towards a general audience.


Triple Masks? Seriously?!?
https://youtu.be/1ZM9QOZg8uM

All that info is from the video, it's not mine.
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01-Feb-2021 05:12:42

NexOrigin

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Dong U Dead said :
A leading data modeller says the different ways people’s bodies react to contracting Covid-19 may be why the Pullman Hotel cases don’t appear to have spread the virus to their close contacts.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/shaun-hendy-s-analysis-why-pullman-cases-don-t-appear-have-spread-covid-19

* So at this stage the upper North Island of NZ is very lucky to have no additional community cases. I'm so pleased.
Well, that's convenient. People test negative, get put in a quarantine hotel, and end up contracting the virus. Can someone explain how that's helping? O_o


Dong U Dead said :
ToP BaSS said :
No conventional fabric face mask creates a 'seal on the face'.

It may not seal the face, however having the mask on will still give you a % of protection, as one of my previous posts points out via an article, huge benefits can be had by wearing one or more mask. The type of masks help too.
The article was flawed though. It was misinterpreting statements made in the study they were citing.

Dong U Dead said :
NexOrigin said :
P.S. The above response is not directed at you Dong, but rather towards a general audience,


Triple Masks? Seriously?!?
https://youtu.be/1ZM9QOZg8uM

All that info is from the video, it's not mine.
I know, I just wanted to make sure. :)

You should watch the video in the quote, it explains the fallacies in the whole "wearing multiple masks" narrative.

If wearing more than one cloth mask gave better protection, why would it take them a year to figure out this scientific breakthrough? And if it was true, why wouldn't mask manufacturers simply add more layers into their masks, the equivalent of 3 masks?

They claim 3 masks is 90% effective.

If 3 masks is 90%, why not advocate 4 masks, even closer to 100%?

It's junk science.
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01-Feb-2021 05:58:09

Megycal
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I read that 3 fabric layers were better than 2 several months ago, its not new. I've even seen a comparison chart for different fabrics. As I said, it was a long time ago so I can't give sources but it might have been in The Times ( UK ).


This coronavirus hasn't been present in the worldwide human population for 5, 10, 20 years so the science around it has changed and is still changing. Therefore the advice given by the experts must also change as new things are discovered.

01-Feb-2021 10:39:07 - Last edited on 01-Feb-2021 10:41:03 by Megycal

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