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FiFi LaFeles said :
I think Lord Sumption (has he got a brother called Con?) should, as an old fart, follow his own leanings and isolate somewhere. For the greater good of us all.

I believe Bouvet Island is nice this time of year. Do you believe that everyone should be isolating for the good of the vulnerable? Or should those who are vulnerable be isolating? And should this isolation be voluntary? Or should it be forced upon the populations under threat? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

19-Jan-2021 02:49:30

That's rather a leading question!

OK. I'm thinking out loud here and open to persuasion or question:

Given the effects on both the economy of this country and the impact of isolating on one and all I think it would make financial sense to get those of working age back working a.s.a.p.
This will address both the financial and mental health of a lot of people.

The vulnerables however (of which I am one) need to have a far greater network of support in order to actually achieve isolation than is currently available to many. If such sufficient support were available then it seems to make more sense to temporarily curtail the largely non-essential activities of the vulnerables.

I think such isolating should be voluntary - they are the ones at greatest risk and if they choose to take the risk of possibly dying ..... well, Darwinism Award time.

I think it would have cost both the country, and individuals, a great deal less if money had been spent providing a robust support system for the vulnerables and let those at far lesser risk continue to work. It becomes problematic only when these workers are closely involved with the vulnerables (Care Homes, Hospitals etc) and may be carrying the virus with them into isolating units.

This is why I've been thinking lately that vaccines should have been offered not to very elderly/ill first but rather the people who look after them, to minimise so far as is possible contaminating an area of isolation.

This would only work if we lived in an ideal world where everyone accepted being vaccinated and we had a trusted vaccine. Neither being the case.

I've never been a big fan of anyone being forced to do something, it's happening right now and the situation is becoming untenable.

You may now pick the bones out of that

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19-Jan-2021 03:18:57 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2021 03:20:52 by FiFi LaFeles

FiFi LaFeles said :
You may now pick the bones out of that Okay, here goes... don't be too offended... but I think I agree with most of what you said.

There should have been a lot more focus on developing and distributing rapid testing systems for regular use. If those who are vulnerable had easy access to rapid testing systems (results are known within 20 minutes) it would be fairly easy to keep most of the virus away from them. Sure, it may be an inconvenience to those who are vulnerable or those who interact with the vulnerable to have to take a 20 minute test maybe once a day, but, that's far less invasive than shutting down the whole country.

I know people who work health related environments, and they're only taking a covid test once a week, not once a day. Sure, once a week is better than nothing, but, why not once a day, if it only takes 20 minutes for the results?

I'm sure the excuse would be "there isn't enough tests for that", meanwhile they're out testing any random person who visits a testing center, regardless if they're vulnerable, or have interactions with vulnerable people. If the focus was pinpointed on those who were vulnerable, there would be no need to be testing random people in random locations all over the country, and there would be enough tests for daily testing for those who have interactions with vulnerable. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

19-Jan-2021 03:40:08

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20-Jan-2021 12:45:41 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2021 12:53:52 by FiFi LaFeles

^Just read that one

Here's a great story:


1News: British woman who lived through 1918 flu pandemic marks 105th birthday after Covid-19 recovery.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/british-woman-lived-through-1918-flu-pandemic-marks-105th-birthday-after-covid-19-recovery

If fat means flavour then I'm ******* delicious!

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